TORTURE as a test of faith? – Silly MUSLIM comments #9Jean Kelley October 28, 2019 100 Comments
Welcome to Stupid Muslim comments. This video
series presents some of the amazingly stupid comments by Muslim youtubers on my channel’s
debates and videos. Here are this week’s top 5 picks This weeks comments are presented to you by
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for at-risk students. 1)Our first comment this week is from ArmyofJesusisIslam
Yildiz, who had this to say… Its amazing how many comments I get from Muslims,
Christians and even meat eaters who on one hand complain that they find my videos personally
insulting, even though I work hard to refrain from making personal critiques and stick with
the content found within the comments, and on the other hand the same youtubers who blatantly
insult my intelligence and call me names. Im all for having engaging dialogue with people
who hold alternative perspectives, and am open to being swayed by compelling evidence,
but if the first thing that comes out of your mouth are ad hominem attacks, I can’t take
anything you have to say seriously. Indoctrination is the uncritical acceptance
of beliefs, which is typically the domain of the religious. The work and writings of
Charles Darwin have, since his death, been corroborated, tested, and expanded upon by
educated professionals. One of these knowledgable individuals who is also a vocal opponent of
religious claims, is the biologist Richard Dawkins, who’s contributions to science and
literature are open for public and scientific scrutiny.
Religious claims regarding how the universe operates and how it came to be are never testable
and must be accepted as fact. These claims are often taught in early childhood, and reinforced
throughout adolescence, which makes your baseless assertion of atheistic indoctrination the
epitome of irony. Science taught in the classroom is about educating the next generation of
minds based upon testable, falsifiable facts that have been confirmed by the scientific
community at large. What is taught represents the body of knowledge that the consensus of
scientists and educators have concluded best represents our current understanding of the
universe. In regards to the question “what humans looked
like before being an ape”, our distant pre-ape descendants looked like a 4 footed small mammal.
Perhaps your next purchase should be a high school biology textbook. 2) Our next comment is from Aman Zeb Khan
who said… Life is short and precious, and there are
not enough hours in a day to spend one’s life studying all the world’s religious texts to
uncover if they hold a glimmer of truth. I rely on the scholarly consensus of those I
deem to have little to no personal bias effecting their observations of the content found within
the texts. Of course no one is without bias, but it is reasonable to assume that a fundamentalist
muslim apologist will hold a skewed positive bias towards their chosen religion, while
a non-religious atheistic koranic scholar will hold a more balanced and defensible position.
Those who have a personal stake in their argument rarely remain objective. Reminds me of the
oil tycoons denying global warming. Lets now address this supposedly profound
description of the human embryo found within the pages of the quran. Are you ready to be
absolutely amazed? “We created man from an essence of clay, then
We placed him as a drop of fluid in a safe place. Then We made that drop of fluid into
a clinging form, and then We made that form into a lump of flesh, and We made that lump
into bones, and We clothed those bones with flesh, and later We made him into other forms.
Glory be to God the best of creators.” Yes, this is it. How utterly underwhelming.
This is supposed proof of the quran holding scientific secrets unknown to the people of
the time. Funny how only after nearly 2 hundred years of embryonic research, did muslims come
up with a way to try and attribute these obviously non-scientific quranic versus to actual science.
What good have these verses done for the last 1400 years? Is this really Allah’s way of
proving his existence to the people of the 21st century? The only reasonable conclusion
is that the qua ran is no more proof of god’s existence then any other religious text written
by man over the ages. 3) Joycelyn Poesnecker is next with this breath
of fresh air… If i woke up one morning blind, i would call my wife to
come and take me to the hospital so that qualified specialists can determine what has happened
to me. I don’t care that many people would ask for god’s help, that is no more proof
of his existence than children sending letters to santa claus asking for presents. My ability
to see was developed in my mother’s womb through natural processes, and not by the handy work
of an invisible, mysterious, shy man in the sky who can’t seem to bring around enough
courage to reveal himself… if he exists. How can anyone be grateful to a being we can’t
even be sure exists? We have no reason to believe that god exists or reads youtube comments
so trying to communicate with him on my videos is premature. How can you be sure that Islam
is the way to god’s good graces, yet 2 billion people believe that Jesus is the only way
there? Millions of people used to believe in Thor, so does he exist? Would praying to
Vishnu make any measurable difference in one’s life since millions more believe in his existence?
Since I’ve stepped away from religion and belief in a god, i clearly see how man made
beliefs of god are. You find all across the globe countless religious sects believing
in less than paper thin evidence for their particular deity. People devote their entire
lives to these figments of imagination, believing in all honesty that they alone will be rewarded
by their invisible friend. I implore you and other religiously minded
people to start activating your critical thinking and skepticism, as these beliefs in a creator
are the result of an overworked imagination, and a strong desire to believe the world is
something it clearly is not. 4) Next up is OneGuy OnelastName who said this… Oh look again, another comment that starts
off with a personal attack of my intelligence. Thanks for that.
The next utterance from this kind youtuber is an accusation that I lied in a previous
video. Let me repeat for you once again, with all the honesty I can muster… I AM comfortable
with stating “I don’t know”, when speaking about things the brightest and most accomplished
humans on the planet have not yet figured out.
Lets dive into this example that will somehow prove that I am not comfortable with not knowing.
I will restate the above scenario in order to provide a clean concise version for others
to follow along: A dead human body is found by the police in
the presence of three eyewitnesses. The first eyewitness believes he knows who the murder
is. The second eyewitness is not actually an eyewitness and does not know anything.
The third eyewitness believes the death happened by chance.
This example is flawed for a number of reasons 1) there is not enough information to come
to a conclusion, so unless there is some DNA evidence, video surveillance, or motives,
this case cannot be solved. 2) eyewitnesses are notoriously poor at detailing
accurately the events of traumatic events. How many people have been locked up in prison
due to mistaken identity or false testimony of eyewitnesses? In this particular scenario,
you have only 1 person who actually claims to have seen anything. The other two don’t
have anything to offer. How do you know that the first eyewitness is telling the truth?
Perhaps he is the murderer? Perhaps he is crazy and imagined a scenario that didn’t
happen. There are possibly thousands of reasons why this eyewitness could be wrong.
3) the cause of the death, for all we know, could have been natural. You didn’t indicate
if the dead person was very old, or very ill. Perhaps the dead man/women was suicidal and
had swallowed some pills or jumped off a roof. Perhaps his/her death was a freak accident.
We know that humans do not just spontaneously die without a cause, as we have a long history
of examining cadavers and the ways in which living beings die.
4) unlike our extensive knowledge of how typically humans can die, and the evidence that can
be uncovered by professionals, we have no evidence that a god exists and that he created
the universe. The only rational conclusion to the great
mysteries of the universe is to admit ignorance and to strive to uncover the truth. If evidence
can be uncovered, than we have advanced our understanding of the cosmos.
Now to address the remaining few points brought up in the comment.
A few more insults directed at my intelligence and motivations, sprinkled for good measure,
followed by a quick instruction not to take the personal attack, personally. Next a claim
that atheism not not modern, and a pronouncement that it is a negative failed religion. To
these points, I would say a) I’ve never claimed atheism to be modern b) atheism is not a religion,
but rather a position on a single issue: does a god exist: no, due to the lack of evidence.
Atheists hold all sorts of other perspectives, and none of them have anything to with atheism.
If i told you I don’t believe in morlocks, does that tell you anything else about what
other beliefs I may have? no. I am an agnostic… atheist. They are not
mutually exclusive as I don’t know if a god exists (agnosticism), but cannot believe he
exists due to the lack in evidence (Atheism). One is a knowledge claim, the other is a belief
claim. 5) And our last comment of the week comes
from Bachir Bouchemla who said this… If god exists, and he is omnipotent and omniscient,
and he has allowed for everything and anything to happen, including wars, torture, and killing,
than he is a sadistic monster not worth our affection or attention. Bachir Bouchemla would
have us believe that the world is board game for god, in which he throws obstacles in our
way and see how we react, and then ultimately punish us for eternity if we react in a way
he deems unbecoming. I find it hard to accept that a being capable of creating the universe
and all its laws, could find no better way to pass the time other than play games with
his creation. Why is faith, i.e. belief without evidence, matter so much to this god? What
does it say about a god’s perfection if he had to make an imperfect world and have billions
of his intelligent creations murder, rape, and torture each other over the centuries
in order to weed out which beings are most worthy of his presence in heaven? If allah
exists, and he really wanted everyone to join him in paradise for all eternity, and he has
strict guidelines for who may gain entry, why not be absolutely transparent with his
wishes and commandments? Why speak through ancient texts full of mistakes, clear immorality,
contradictions, and fantastical mythology? If I were to design a device that has to perform
in a very specific set of parameters, and failure to do so would cause mass death and
suffering to everyone around, would it not be crucial to provide at a minimum a manual
that is 1) clear and easily understood 2) very detailed in explaining exactly how to
handle the device and 3) an explanation of the consequences if the user fails to follow
the instructions. What would be even more appropriate would be explain and demonstrate
the device’s instructions in person to ensure that there is no room for misunderstanding.
Im not all knowing and capable of doing everything, and yet I have better sense then this yet
to be confirmed Allah. Religious people of walks of life like to
regurgitate and parrot back the indoctrination that was fed to them. They all claim to be
the bearer of the real truth, the correct instructions that will lead one to live a
blissful life for eternity. Religions seem to pressed to convince their members to idealize
faith as if its the most desirable trait, yet in reality its the element I that find
the most dishonest and repulsive. This week, i will leave you with a bonus comment
for you to enjoy. If you can make sense of it, you are a better person than I. POLL:
There you have it. 5 stupid comments from 5 different youtubers. Which comment would
you vote to win the Dumbass Comment of the week award? Would it be: 1) ArmyofJesusisIslam Yildiz who thinks that
atheists are indoctrinated by Darwin and Dawkins. 2) Aman Zeb Khan who is convinced that a few
vague passages in the quran that supposedly describe the development of the human embryo,
is proof that allah exists. 3) Joycelyn Poesnecker who thinks that just
because many people would pray to god if they suddenly lost their ability to see, that a
god therefore must exist. 4) OneGuy OnelastName who thinks that spewing
personal insults and accusations of lying are the way to convince an atheist that belief
in allah is rational. or
5) Bachir Bouchemla who believes that allah has allowed death and suffering in this world
to test our faith in his existence, that he has not otherwise demonstrated. To vote, leave your choice in the comment
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