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Real Christians Cannot Believe in Evolution


A dedicated Christian cannot believe in both the evolution of mankind and believe in Christ at the same time. Well ok, you CAN believe anything you want, but if you believe the Bible is inspired by God, then you cannot also believe in evolution. Here’s why. According to Christianity, Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden of Eden and brought a curse on all mankind. All of their descendants, that’s us, are now born in a state of sinfulness and separation from God. In the Old Testament, animals were sacrificed in order to atone for a person’s sin. Though it seems that more often than not, people were condemned to death for their sin, rather than given the option of sacrificing an animal. But let’s move on. To solve the problem, Christianity believes that the goal of Jesus was to become the final sacrifice for the sins of humanity. If we accept Jesus as our saviour from this curse of sin, then it is His sacrifice on the cross that reconciles us to God. Thus we can now make heaven our home. Let’s back that up with scripture: “When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.” “Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.” “Just as everyone dies because we all belong to Adam, everyone who belongs to Christ will be given new life.” If Adam never existed, then Christ’s sacrifice was pointless. What was Jesus saving us from? A non-literal metaphor? A Genesis fairy-tale? Who wrote the scriptures I just quoted? Paul. Paul wrote more books in the New Testament than any other author. He is the main reason Christianity is what it is today. And Paul believed in a literal Adam and Eve. “From one man [God] created all the nations throughout the whole earth.” “The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam — that is, Christ — is a life-giving Spirit.” Aren’t Paul’s writings meant to be inspired by God? If you don’t trust Paul with the Genesis account, why believe anything Paul says? Jesus Himself confirms the creation account, and quotes Genesis: “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.’ As an aside, Jesus also references the stories of Noah and Jonah as real events: “For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.” So if Jonah was never in the belly of the fish, if it was just metaphor, does that mean Jesus was only metaphorically dead? “People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.” This is Jesus confirming these events, and not one word indicating that these stories are simply metaphors, as many liberal Christians like to think. Let’s look at one more thing. The genealogy of Jesus Christ. “Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli. The son of David, the son of Abraham, the son of Noah, the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. And just incase we think there were some form of human before Adam, Adam was the son of God. If Adam never existed, then neither did Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus. And for that matter, Abraham, Noah, and King David did not exist either, as their lineage is also traced back to Adam. Maybe they’re all metaphors! Maybe the Israelites made up their entire history! Christians, if you do not believe in a literal Adam and Eve, then there is no need to believe in a saviour. In order to reconcile this problem, we could take Adam and Eve out of the picture and say that Jesus was sent to save us from sin in a general sense, but that’s not the doctrine taught in the bible. The writings of Paul are very specific that Adam is the cause of sin entering the world, and is the reason for Christ’s sacrifice. If you believe the Bible is holy in any sense, then you cannot replace Paul’s doctrine of sin with your own modified version. To disregard Adam is to modify Paul’s doctrine according to your own beliefs and biases. In essence you’d be fabricating your own reason for Christ’s death. The gospels are the only reliable source of what Jesus supposedly said and did. If they are incorrect, then you have no other foundation on which to base your belief in Christ. As science and archeology advances, what other stories in the Bible will you turn into metaphor? Why not just get off the religion bandwagon, and be good for goodness sake? HOST: Can I just bring you, in a sense, to the point of the question? HOST: Do you accept that humans evolved from apes? GEORGE PELL: Yeah, probably. From Neanderthals, yes. RICHARD DAWKINS: From Neanderthals? GEORGE PELL: Probably. RICHARD DAWKINS: Why from Neanderthals? GEORGE PELL: Why.. who else, who else would you suggest? RICHARD DAWKINS: Neanderthals were our cousins, we’re not descended from them. HOST: So let me put this to you as a question. At what point in this evolutionary scale was a soul imparted to the humans from God? GEORGE PELL: Look a soul isn’t, it’s not like putting a spot of gin in a tonic. GEORGE PELL: A soul is the principle of life. GEORGE PELL: So whenever there was a principle of life that could question, that could be open to awe, GEORGE PELL: that was able to communicate, then we had the first human. HOST: So are you talking about a garden of Eden scenario with an actual Adam and Eve? GEORGE PELL: Well, Adam and Eve are terms, what do they mean, Life and Earth. GEORGE PELL: It’s like every man, that’s a beautiful, sophistocated, GEORGE PELL: mythological account. It’s not science. HOST: You shouldn’t see it in any way as being an historical or literal truth? GEORGE PELL: It’s certainly not a scientific truth. And it’s a religious story told for religious purposes. HOST: Is there a point where you distinguish between metaphor and reality? For example, Moses receiving the Ten Commandments. GEORGE PELL: It’s difficult to know how exactly that worked, GEORGE PELL: but Moses was a great man, there was a great encounter with the divine. GEORGE PELL: Actually with Moses, GEORGE PELL: we get the key that enables us to come together with the Greeks, with reason, GEORGE PELL: because Moses said, “Who will I tell the Egyptians?” GEORGE PELL: And he said, “Tell.. that My name is, I Am Who I Am” HOST: I’m gonna bring Richard Dawkins back in here, because we’ve… RICHARD DAWKINS: Well, I’m curious to know, RICHARD DAWKINS: if Adam and Eve never existed, where did “original sin” come from? RICHARD DAWKINS: But I also would like to clarify the point about RICHARD DAWKINS: whether there ever was a first human. RICHARD DAWKINS: That’s a rather difficult and puzzling question, because RICHARD DAWKINS: we know that the previous species from which we’re descended RICHARD DAWKINS: is probably Homo erectus, and before that, some sort of Australopithecine. RICHARD DAWKINS: But there never was a last Homo erectus who gave birth to the first Homo sapiens. RICHARD DAWKINS: Every creature ever born belonged to the same species as its parents. RICHARD DAWKINS: The process of evolution is so gradual that you can never say, RICHARD DAWKINS: “Aha! Now suddenly we have the first human.” RICHARD DAWKINS: It was always a case of just a slightly, different from the previous generation. RICHARD DAWKINS:That’s a scientific point which I think is quite interesting. I’m not sure if it has a theological significance, except that I think successive popes have tried to suggest that the soul did indeed RICHARD DAWKINS: get added, rather like gin to tonic, at some particular point during evolution. RICHARD DAWKINS: That some point in evolution there was no soul, and then later there was one.

Jean Kelley

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100 COMMENTS

  1. Monkey D Luffy Posted on October 22, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Roman Catholics are supposed to believe in literal Adam and Eve, not just as a metaphor, right?

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  2. Discern4 Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, yes. I think I talked about that in my follow-up video "Additional Thoughts on Christianity and Evolution". It's funny, many bigwigs in the Catholic church (and its members) mouth their support for evolution, but their own Catechism (basically a Statement of Faith) supports creation via Adam and Eve.

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  3. 1776bricks Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:15 am

    The savior exists because since men created nations, corrupt men wrote laws. Jesus is the word (the law) and is always the one who dies for our sins (law breaking) Adam was the first nation and he didn't have a son until someone overthrew them. The bible is not a history book, but a history, present and future book. History repeats itself. They're trying to show us something.

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  4. 1776bricks Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:17 am

    and he doesn't not exist, too

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  5. MrAsap2000as Posted on November 4, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    I agree, real Christians cannot believe in Evolution because real Christians are morons. The moment you start to believe in Evolution, is the moment you move towards being a true critical thinker and therefore cannot be a true Christian anymore. You are admitting to yourself, whether consciously or not, that Christianity is a pile of bull but you just can't get yourself to completely rid of it.

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  6. Discern4 Posted on November 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    It baffles me how many Christians accept evolution and yet still cling to whatever shreds of Bible they still actually believe in. They chuck out half of Genesis because it conflicts with science, yet amazingly, in their mind the Gospels are immune to such critical analysis – with demons being cast out, people raised from the dead, people coming out of their graves, etc.

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  7. Calvin Snow Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    There are no Christians.

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  8. Bernald Bart Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:16 am

    hi guys, I respect all your opinions on this subject. I belong to no church or religion but I believe in Jesus as recorded in the Bible. I agree that the creation stated in Genesis is not a metaphor. Adam was a real literal person. Archaeologists unearthed bones of what they call neanderthals and/or homo erectus and concluded we came from them, or basically we came from monkeys. Should we accept their conclusions as absolute truth? Honestly, it takes some amount of faith to believe in such.

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  9. Mick116 Posted on February 11, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Rejecting evolution on the authority of scripture is ignorance of science and a misreading of scripture, at least according to the official position of the mainline Christian denominations of which 90% of Christians worldwide are members.

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  10. Discern4 Posted on February 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    My response to that comment would be my follow-up video "Additional Thoughts on Christianity and Evolution" here: /watch?v=-RaFc2J-RE4
    Which 90% are you talking about? Denominations like Catholicism? Their own catechism supports a literal Adam and Eve, as shown in my follow-up vid. Denominations like AOG, UPC, and Foursquare which have tens of millions of Christian members have Statements of Faith or other documents that show their denomination believes in a literal Adam and Eve.

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  11. Mick116 Posted on February 24, 2013 at 5:46 am

    Mainstream denominations that accept science (including evolution) would be Catholicism, Anglicanism, many Lutheran, Methodist and Presbyterian denominations, Orthodox, United and Uniting Protestant denominations. I'm not saying that every member of these denominations accepts evolution, just that the official doctrinal positions are not incompatible with evolution and a mythological Genesis.

    So why the fear of metaphor? If Jesus can speak in parables, why can't the Spirit speak through myths?

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  12. Discern4 Posted on February 24, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    "So why the fear of metaphor? If Jesus can speak in parables, why can't the Spirit speak through myths?"

    Because the evidence within the Bible is that it was never meant as a metaphor. A point which I've gone over tediously in these vids. What's to say the entire character of Jesus isn't just a metaphor and that he never actually existed?

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  13. Mick116 Posted on February 24, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    "What's to say the entire character of Jesus isn't just a metaphor"

    Tradition, and the witness of the apostles. That said, the gospels are heavily-biased, non-historical accounts that do include elements of myth and parable; and the earliest Christian literary witness is Paul of Tarsus, who never knew Jesus in the flesh.

    It isn't a matter of "not believing" parts of the bible, it's taking the bible as it actually is, and not imposing unrealistic standards of inerrancy.

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  14. Discern4 Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    "That said, the gospels are heavily-biased, non-historical accounts that do include elements of myth and parable"

    Which means the resurrection can also be included as myth. It's fine for a non-believer to take this perspective that the gospels contains myths, but it's no good for a believer trying to ascertain what he actually believes. A christian can't arbitrarily pick and choose which parts they think are "true". They need to provide internal biblical evidence for their derived doctrine.

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  15. Mick116 Posted on February 24, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    The belief that Christ was raised was first given written expression by the apostle Paul, decades before the earliest gospel was written. Recognising subsequent embellishment of the details is not "arbitrary"; the resurrection accounts differ in their details, with a clear progression from Paul, to the relatively simple account of Mark, to the embellished accounts of Matthew & Luke, to the highly theological account of John. Have a read of Spong's "Resurrection: Myth or Reality?".

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  16. 고서연 Posted on March 13, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    so apes suddenly learned how to talk, create apple ipods and complex computers, drive a car, do math equations, throw a punch, use a knife, type on a computer, watch tv, go on a sled ride? please… evidence supports nothing but an excuse and a simple fairytale.. scientists are making stuff up cause they dont want to believe that suddenly everything appeared on earth.. and they'll do anything to keep that lie going

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  17. Rydal S Posted on May 24, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    I surely agree with you that Christians cannot believe in Evolution and still believe the Bible. Those who do so are more stupid than evolutionists. Even if they are mainline christian denominations, it does not mean they are right. The way I see it, Satan uses religion to confuse people big time, by mixing truth with lies. And you are right in this video. (for once) 😉

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  18. Discern4 Posted on May 25, 2013 at 12:48 am

    thanks for watching!

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  19. 고서연 Posted on May 26, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    idk you tell me ,you seem to radiate stupidity all around you 😉

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  20. 고서연 Posted on May 26, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    and you cant really make fun of some one's religion or beliefs .. it only makes me dislike you atheists more and now thanks to you, smart one, i have the impression that atheists are all ignorant and dumb

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  21. 고서연 Posted on May 26, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    yes what a nice response you got from me…
    did u ever think you might be talking to someone younger than you?

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  22. 고서연 Posted on May 26, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    this is getting really random
    nice talking to you~~
    it was nice while it lasted

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  23. 고서연 Posted on May 26, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    i think whining is kinda different but whatver
    i didnt make any mistakes unlike you, and im not looking stupid oh smart one

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  24. Hesse3 Posted on May 29, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I get what you're saying: Religion is very fragile: expose it to a bit of reality or reason, and it starts to crack, and before you know it, your imaginary friend is gone.
    Keep up the good work

    PS … even with Adam and Eve, the story is absolutely incoherent.

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  25. Hesse3 Posted on May 29, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    No, these things don't happen suddenly. Your examples are good, though: all of these things did not happen all of a sudden. And neither do the development of species, that happens even more slowly. Please consider seeing the video to the end before commenting.

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  26. deanosumo Posted on May 30, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Thanks for your idiotic comment about magic books and showing that you believe there is a devil.

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  27. deanosumo Posted on May 30, 2013 at 9:55 am

    'Suddenly'… if you consider a few million years suddenly, then, suddenly.

    Educate yourself on the facts.

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  28. 고서연 Posted on May 30, 2013 at 10:15 am

    i still will never believe it

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  29. CraigH Posted on May 30, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    You're basically asserting that you either can't believe in Christianity or that people lived to be 969 years old about 6-10k years ago when the universe was created (which is at least 8.8045704X10^23 miles), and during that 6-10k years a global flood killed everything on the earth except 2 of every creature on the planet which were all kept on huge ark for over a year (approx. 8.7 million species currently). Not only all that nonsense but all of the other nonsensical stuff in the bible as well.

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  30. Discern4 Posted on May 30, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Less apologetics and excuses need to be used when the bible is taken literally. It's rather like an Occam's Razor example.

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  31. Demeter Posted on June 25, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Then you're not actually interested in the truth. If you reject facts and continue to assert your fantasies you're just like the scientists you despise. Hopefully you don't procreate and poison your children and the future.

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  32. Eli Parker Posted on July 5, 2013 at 3:17 am

    Apes did not "suddenly do this". Here is what happened. I'll spelll it out for your simple brain 🙂
    1. As the climate and foliage changed, the needs for the apes changed. As different mutations became succesful, the apes began to walk erect on the ground, seeing up the tall grass.
    2. As humans developed, we became more and more social. Our brains enlarged FOR THE MAIN PURPOSE of helping us understand each other
    3. One thing led to another, and here we are

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  33. Eli Parker Posted on July 5, 2013 at 3:20 am

    I Hereby Challenge You: If you can prove to me that God exists, I will admit to it. I do not have to disprove God, because, according to you, God can do anything our twisted minds create, which makes this impossible. However, it isn't impossible to PROVE it. Similarly, I cannot DISPROVE that a book is not bark until I PROVE it is paper

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  34. Dark Posted on July 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Something can't come for nothing.

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  35. Anton Martin Posted on July 14, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    God is the great wizard that create men, genesis a sumerian book say so, and all people that believe in fantasies i

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  36. Tito Real Posted on July 23, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    All christians look for this.video,
    Christian cannot believe in evolution

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  37. Discern4 Posted on August 4, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    jw35zx said: "I'm a Christian. I believe in evolution."

    In another video you watched just before mine, you commented "I'm not a Christian but I believe there's a higher power." All you've done is strengthen my argument.

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  38. Geoff Gallagher Posted on August 24, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Just wondering if the young earthers out there believe that the earth actually moves through the solar system given the scriptures say for example – He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. (Psalm 104:5 ESV). For 1700 years Christians believed that earth did not spin or move through the solar system because of texts like the one quoted. Q. Why do you believe the earth moves around the solar system?

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  39. Geoff Gallagher Posted on August 24, 2013 at 11:47 am

    While I don't believe in Human-evolution, I am just wondering why some Christians want to write other Christians off because they view certain creation texts differently even if those Christians may hold to orthodoxy on the deity of Christ, his atoning work on the cross and justification by faith alone and the gospel. Exactly why is the age of the earth or the mechanism that God may have used for creation the dividing line for so many. Very sad to be honest. Post tenebras lux. God bless

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  40. Geoff Gallagher Posted on August 24, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    The clip of Cardinal Pell was an unashamed straw man. You include the position of someone that is so far left and obviously scientifically ignorant that Dawkins looked more evangelical then he did. Why not include some serious minded Christians like John Lennox or even Hugh Ross and interact with a more sophisticated argument? It's intellectually dishonest to say the least and rather disappointing behaviour from Christians that reportedly highly esteem the value of truth. God bless.

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  41. ThaOutlaw777 Posted on September 10, 2013 at 8:20 am

    uhm a small question if you dont mind, i'm a christian and i've just started reading the bible, can't evolution and god go together? perhaps god made man the way he wanted them to be thro evolution? sorry if i am totaly wrong.

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  42. Discern4 Posted on September 12, 2013 at 12:56 am

    You might be interested in my follow up video: /watch?v=-RaFc2J-RE4

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  43. mchristos606 Posted on September 26, 2013 at 8:03 am

    TRUTH MESSENGER. ..
    Belief and STUPIDITY oftentimes go hand in hand !! We should be concerned about what the TRUTH is and NOT what some SILLY book says !! FYI…if you haven't noticed , we do live in reality which is based on PROGRESSIVE EVOLUTION. To disregard scientific knowledge borders on lunacy and , unfortunately , many a Christian is loony !!
    Evolution is true albeit it is God ordained and true Christians have no problem reconciling science with Christ's gospel !!

    🙂

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  44. Discern4 Posted on September 26, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    "We should be concerned about what the TRUTH is and NOT what some SILLY book says … true Christians have no problem reconciling science with Christ's gospel"
    This "silly book" you talk about is your best source for the existence of Christ. If you can't trust your own scripture, what foundation do you have to actually believe anything about christianity?

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  45. mchristos606 Posted on September 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    TRUTH MESSENGER. ..
    @Discern4….Absolutely the BEST source to learn about Christ is the " Fifth epochal revelation of Truth " titled The Urantia Book ! Out of its 2100 pages about the whole of Creation , 800 pages are devoted to Christ. It was The Urantia Book that brought me to Christ and you can read it online at urantia.org !
    You can learn how theistic evolution and Christ are not incompatible as you claim ! I'd glad to answer any questions you might have about the book !

    🙂

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  46. Discern4 Posted on September 27, 2013 at 1:27 am

    "800 pages are devoted to Christ"
    Which doesn't mean anything as the book is published 2000 years after Christ. If you want to know what a historical figure actually said, you need corroborating sources as close to the person's lifetime as possible. The further you get away, the more myth and fabrications take over.
    There's no difference between this book and any other book of supposed revelation that I can find at a christian bookstore.

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  47. mchristos606 Posted on September 27, 2013 at 4:06 am

    TRUTH MESSENGER. .

    To say there is " no difference between The Urantia Book and any other book " is frankly , laughable !
    Especially since you haven't read The Urantia Book !!
    I CHALLENGE you to read " paper " number 187 in the UB titled The
    Crucifixion and then see if you still think The UB is like any other book . Don't be afraid !!

    🙂

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  48. Discern4 Posted on September 27, 2013 at 5:54 am

    I read it, and it's simply an embellished re-telling of the gospels. Even often quoting the gospel authors word-for-word. This paper relies heavily on the Bible, and clearly the Urantia author's perception of Christ is rooted in the gospels. The author seems to have more respect for the bible than you do. Outside of the gospels there are no reliable accounts of Jesus. Someone writing the Urantia 2000 years later is no different than me making up my own gospel of Jesus today.

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  49. mchristos606 Posted on September 27, 2013 at 6:22 am

    TRUTH MESSENGER. ..
    Actually. ..NO ! The UB is not reliant on The Bible but on the universal records ! While The Bible is the work of men , sometimes inspired , there are lots of mistakes, contradictions and irregularities in it. The UB corrects those mistakes by clearly laying out the logic and reasoning behind its claims.
    In any case..have a great day and God bless !!

    🙂

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  50. Michele Anne Posted on October 30, 2013 at 12:34 am

    He used to be a believer. He had a video out telling how he went to church and never felt god answered his prayers until he lost all faith. I cant find that video, though. Dont know where it went.

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  51. Discern4 Posted on October 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    I'm not in the "Jesus was a Myth" camp, I tend to side with scholar Bart Ehrman that there was a real Jesus but that the gospels are for the most part fabricated.

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  52. Luis selby Posted on October 31, 2013 at 4:39 am

    bible is a fairy tale,,!!!! 21 century men don't believe in that crap!!!…..it took 500 years to put the bible together!!!!,,,,Noe was 99 year old and he built the ark!/?…you have to be retarded to believe in that tale,

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  53. SuperCal Posted on November 6, 2013 at 1:33 am

    DNA evidence points to a single common female ancestor.Eve makes scientific sense.

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  54. Cletus Van Dammett Posted on November 29, 2013 at 10:20 am

    No. The Bible is the word of God written by man. Not the word of God written by GOD. Nice try though.

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  55. Brave Apollo Posted on January 12, 2014 at 7:31 am

    Ever noticed that it's only religious people, more often fundamentalist Christians who try to refute Evolution… now that tells you something, it tells you they are RELIGI-TARDS

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  56. monolyth421 Posted on February 13, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    No good reason at all to believe the bible.

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  57. Danny Taylor Posted on February 24, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    +SuperCal   Not exactly. The DNA evidence that you are referring points to Mitochondrial Eve. She was the most recent common female ancestor of all living humans. She lived approx 100,000 to 200,00 years ago and was NOT the only woman alive at the time. She was also NOT  living at the same time that the most recent common male ancestor was alive. It was probably a mistake to call her, whoever she was, Eve. That name has caused lots of confusion.  

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  58. blackoutninja Posted on March 9, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    Can I just point out and agree with the tweet that appeared at 7:20

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  59. Alan W Posted on March 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    This video just destroyed any notion of Christianity being anything more than just man made fiction. Discern4 has demonstrated, with facts and evidence, that the core substance of Christianity isn't just dead, it was never alive to begin with.  R.I.P. Jesus.

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  60. Aaron Joseph Posted on July 10, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Good word

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  61. ninjamixer Posted on July 14, 2014 at 12:16 am

    Do you hear yourself??? You make no sense.

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  62. jcr65566 Posted on October 7, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Im a Christen But Cardinal Goeorge Pell is a Cathlic not a Christen. Over the last 1700 years the roman Cathlic church have kill off about a milion christens. 

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  63. jcr65566 Posted on October 7, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    It all to do with the way God crated light and the speed of light.  What Cardinal Goeorge Pell trying to say is God a crater. And God never stops  createing  And God has not stop Creating ever  Evolution is Gods work And it  realy God Crating The arument about cration and evoution can be sum up in the speed  of light Our milky way galixy is 100,000 light years a cross if the univerce were crated 6000 years ago we would only be able to see 6000 light years in to space The reasion we can see all the other stars is God created all the univerce All at once including the light coming from stars bilion of years away

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  64. jcr65566 Posted on October 7, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    We have got to remember God  Also crated time  God created Adem and Eve as fully grown man and a fully grown womam though they were only a day old they had a history of years growing up  with God as there father. When God crated the earth with it a history going back of  billions of years yet the earth was only Days old The had a history of the animals God created on it

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  65. Sam1825 Posted on October 19, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    Thanks, this is a great overview of the incompatibility of evolution and traditional biblical Christianity. It just doesn't work.

    These days, many highly skilled Christian apologists try to convince us that we really are in dire need of a Savior, that we have — are — wretched souls the eternal fate of whom depends on whether we turn from our "sinful ways" ASAP and repentantly ask our Maker for forgiveness. This would also entail that if we had the TINIEST shred of concern for our fellow humans — that we would then proceed to bug them to hell (I mean, heaven) and make THEM see the light too before it is forever too late… What a drama, and how important it is to have certainty whether it is true or false.

    And these apologists are entertaining and intriguing to listen to, but they CAN scare and confuse you. Hence it is all the more important to watch material like this. And if you STILL have doubts (I mean regarding whether you should ditch your faith), watch another video in conjunction with the above one. Because IMO the maker of that video is better at presenting the evidence than Richard Dawkins himself:

    The Evidence For Evolution Made Easy (HD)

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  66. Zach Abbott Posted on January 9, 2015 at 3:36 am

    Well…no shit.

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  67. charlidog2 Posted on February 22, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    5:10 Actually the buybull is the only source period, and it has been proven extremely unreliable. There was no flood and the Theory of Evolution explains the diversity of life. We know those two as well as we know the shape of the planet.
    How long will you theists deny what you can see? Why are you clinging to a barbaric, blood sacrifice, bronze age death cult? To protect your hope of heaven, you accept some friends and family will be tortured forever. Are you really as sadistic as your god concept? You should be ashamed.

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  68. Tommy vercetti Posted on February 27, 2015 at 12:01 am

    belief we developed is incredible and must on no require an enormous faith in coincidences

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  69. Chris Russell Posted on March 19, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    0:38  Not all Christians believe that everyone is born into a state of sinfulness.  That is Calvinist doctrine that teaches, which probably dates back to the 1500s since that's when John Calvin was alive.

    So to correct your video, a Christian cannot believe in Calvinist doctrine and evolution.

    1:00 also, the belief in substitution atonement via Christ's death is a western interpretation of scripture.  The eastern school of thought, especially in the Greek Orthodox church, is that the purpose of Christ's life was to reconcile humanity with God, and that death was an unfortunate byproduct. 

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  70. James Blonde Posted on April 23, 2015 at 7:55 am

    I fully agree with this Video.
    I have done the homework and he is right on.
    Real christians have bothered to do the research and find out what a joke evolution is.
    Way too many scientists nowadays are seeing evolution as ridiculous.

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  71. James Blonde Posted on April 26, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Man, what an embarrassment to the catholics.The leader of the catholics in australia doesn't know if he's coming or going. God said He will spew the luke warm out of His mouth. Wake up Christians! Get in or get out but don't be luke warm people pleasers.
    The bible is an Historical Document and guess what,It makes sense if you read it and understand it. How can many christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead and did so many miracles but God could not make the world in 6 days???
    Stop picking and choosing and just believe.
    The world had to be created supernaturally by a God outside of time and space and intelligent design shows this to be true.
    Evolution says we somehow came from nothing and people would rather believe that???
    Wake up before it's too late.

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  72. Apetapeable Posted on June 11, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Your arguments stand so incredibly strong with the amount of research you did before making this video, and it makes it all so much more logical that the common christian point of view has no possibility to be correct, at least around your covered subject.

    Great job man, 10/10

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  73. Sebastian Lundh Posted on June 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    Could you please make a video about when Jesus was supposed to return?

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  74. Simen Sebastian Thoresen Posted on July 7, 2015 at 12:24 am

    This video is just.. (SIGH!)

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  75. maxthedog999 Posted on August 5, 2015 at 3:12 am

    While your observations regarding the bible are logically consistent, it's not clear why you think Paul — a man apparently prone to hallucination — is more credible than the scientific evidence supporting evolution.

    edit: Perhaps I'm unclear on your position (I admit I listened while distracted, programming… I'll watch your follow up video.)
    edit #2: well done, and I agree with you.

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  76. YUS Ѧ Posted on October 6, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    This is all an argument that Adam was a real person, not that evolution is wrong. You could accept Adam and Eve as real people, and as the starting point of where God decided that man would be separated from the rest of creation. At the end of this video, Dawkins explains this argument nicely by pointing out that Popes would traditionally say that there was an exact starting point of when souls were given to men. If you imagine Adam as the first with a soul, there is no slippery slope of metaphors that your entire video is based on.

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  77. J. H. Posted on October 7, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    so you're trying to say that I can't be a true Christian and believe in evolution too? well you should tell Jesus that you know better than him and tell him to make room for you on the judgment seat of Christ. evolution is scientific fact and it slowly took place over millions of years.

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  78. God Squared Posted on October 22, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    You're so sure you know the details of how God created man that you've granted yourself the authority to judge who is a real Christian and who is not? The fact that you don't understand how evolution is compatible with the bible shows only that you are fallible. God asked for faith, this need to prove the bible was scientifically accurate shows you've missed the point.

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  79. Georges Lemaître Posted on October 27, 2015 at 12:32 am

    +Discern4 Genetics only proves one view of Adam and Eve wrong, but the majority of old testament scholars reject that view. The other view depends on how we understand the imago dei: https://vimeo.com/41244016

    That video argues for a literal Adam and Eve, just that they were the first humans called to be His image, not that they were the first humans ever in existence. The image of God is not a special creation, but being bestowed with a purpose.

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  80. Deacon Verter Posted on December 31, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    At least some Fundies are willing to admit that if Evolution is true, biblical literalism is false. Evolution IS true. There is not a Geneticist or Geologist in this world who doubts it. Wait…let me guess: it's all a big conspiracy!

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  81. tod beard Posted on January 21, 2016 at 1:20 am

    So in other words, he's saying you can't be a real Christian and believe facts.

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  82. American Joe Show Posted on May 25, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    6:48 Adam and Eve is a mythological account……..WHAT?! And this guy is a TEACHER of the Word of God…..LORD help us, we are doomed.

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  83. Dodec84 Posted on October 22, 2016 at 5:09 am

    4:10 ehm …. if people appear in a genealogy of a mythological person, it doesn't mean they don't exist.

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  84. the frogo show Posted on January 17, 2017 at 1:38 am

    Hear that? If you want to be a real 100% Christian, you cannot believe in science. Ignore the fact natural selection works, ignore the fossil record, ignore that gene mutations are a thing. Scientists are wrong because you have a 2000 year old book that clearly says evolution doesn't exist. with that book you could make 1+1= apricot because your book says so and your book is clearly fact… If you have to choose to be arrogant to believe in it, it probably isn't the best thing to believe.

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  85. Scott Jackson Posted on March 21, 2017 at 12:41 am

    Romans 5:12 is spiritual death.

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  86. analibone lanlo Posted on May 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    I don't believe any thing from man kind , I don't believe nothing in this world .. I put my faith and trust on my lord Jesús even tho I'm a sinner but I'll admit I offer my heart to jesus any day anytime he's my messiah

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  87. Romans1013 Posted on July 20, 2017 at 12:01 am

    We do our part so when you are kneeling before God, you have absolutely no excuse for not accepting Jesus. Maybe you'll remember this at that time.

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  88. Matt Stofer Posted on July 26, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    The narrator is saying that facts or reality don't matter. It's all about "what you believe."

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  89. audey soyrt Posted on August 17, 2017 at 4:09 am

    I used to believe in evolution, I had no choice its what we're taught in schools.

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  90. thedoc2102 Posted on August 27, 2017 at 4:30 am

    "No true Scotsman" a logical fallacy.

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  91. Matt Stofer Posted on September 9, 2017 at 6:15 am

    Stop the presses. Biblical literalists reject evolution. Why should anybody care whether Christian fundamentalists reject evolution or not? Evolution gets a thumbs down from believers? Who cares?

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  92. D_fend R Posted on November 23, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    I still don't see why there is such a, problem here- you mostly talk about Adam and Eve, but I don't understand why you think evolution is a deathblow to the story. Couldn't it be possible Adam and Eve were the first humans that gained sentience, then everything else happened?

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  93. Miri Schnell Posted on December 11, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I myself think we should make a difference between the human body and the human soul. My soul uses my body to live in this earth and this body is created by evolution and this body will die one day. But my soul came from good. Like Adams soul and the soul of all human beings after him. And this soul will go to good again and live in heaven because Jesus came to earth to live in a human body as a human being and died with this human body and overcame the death.

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  94. Sicko Goat Dario Posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Bruh even Papst Believe that

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  95. Sicko Goat Dario Posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    Ouh boi the bible is not totaly right its just to tell us who created the world and not how…

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  96. jessecamping Posted on January 12, 2018 at 2:17 am

    wow ..somebody pushed you off the turnip truck at an early age..

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  97. Marty Anderson Posted on June 16, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    I have to say that I disagree.

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  98. Original Sinner Posted on October 17, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    Amen. The belief of evolution is damnable.

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  99. ERWIN MAGER Posted on December 9, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Your Ignorance is so blatant retrograde ; don't even claim to represent Christianity which you don't even have a clue about ; but we'll if Adam was the first man; where and when did the Black Man appear? Can you answer that?

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