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How were people saved in the Old Testament?


– So we, we’re considering the question, how were people saved
in the Old Testament? And Christians have
wondered about this because we’re saved by putting our
faith and trust in Jesus Christ in his finished work on the cross. Obviously in the Old
Testament Jesus hadn’t come and many of them would
not have even known him by name, so how were they saved? What did they believe in? And the answer is quite
simply from Genesis to Revelation everyone is saved by faith, through the grace of God.
And in the Old Testament they were saved by faith
in a coming deliverer, a coming savior you
could say they were saved by faith in Jesus Christ dimly perceived. We could go right back to the beginning. Where we have the first
man and the first woman rebel against God and God
comes and brings judgment upon them but in the midst of
that judgment, there is grace and God talks about
the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman
being hostile towards one another but that eventually
the seed of the woman will conquer fatally,
will deal the fatal blow to the seed of the serpent. It says there that the
man named his wife Eve because she was the
mother of all the living. Well I don’t think that
means that she was the first woman so that all descendants
would come from her. I think it means something more than that, that she would, he was
actually exercising faith in the promise that there
would be a descendant of the woman who would eventually bring the death blow to evil in the world. That promise is developed in various ways as the narrative unfolds. Things become really bad
and God brings in a judgment on the entire world and
then he rescues Noah and his family and so God
makes a brand new start, and then that seems to go
down the tubes pretty quickly and God makes a brand
new start with Abraham, and in the story of Abraham we read that Abraham believed in Yahweh
and his faith was credited to him for righteousness. So because Abraham
believed in what God said was true, they were able to
have a covenant relationship. So Abraham was saved by faith in the Lord, and then as Abraham’s family
grow into the nation of Israel, God makes a covenant with
them and creates a priesthood and a system of worship
and tells them how they are to relate to him and how
they’re to treat each other. The sacrificial system was basically a grand audiovisual communication
that when you disbelieve the word of God when you
disobey the will of God there has to be punishment. There has to be death. But it should be obvious
from the sacrificial system itself that this was not
successful in removing guilt because they had to keep doing it over and over again and so this is
the point made by the author of Hebrews that the priests
never sat down because they never finished their job. They had to offer sacrifices
over and over again, and so the continuity of
offering sacrifices was a message in itself to the ancient
Israelites, that this is not the answer itself it’s pointing forward to a sacrifice that will come
that will finally satisfy the wrath of God and satisfy
the indignation that God has because the covenant
relationship has been broken, and ultimately this is
based on whether or not you’re a believer in Yahweh
a believer in the Lord or are you not a believer in the lord? And so this is developed right
throughout the Old Testament, when you come to for example
the wisdom literature like the Book of Proverbs he
says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
well the fear of the Lord is a way of talking about
covenant allegiance, faithfulness and loyalty within
the covenant relationship with Yahweh. You look at
Proverbs he says in Proverbs chapter three, don’t trust in yourself, trust in the Lord with all your heart, and don’t lean to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge
him he will direct your paths, and then he says fear the
Lord, and then he says love the Lord, don’t despise his discipline. This is all dealing
with faith in who God is and in what he says and in his promises and in his instructions, and along with that we have the promise of a coming deliverer being developed. So in Genesis 49 it talks about a scepter coming from the tribe
of Judah, there’s a king coming from Judah and in the messages of the false prophet Balem he
says there’s a coming king. The shout of the king is
among them, a star will come from the tribe of Judah,
and so there are promises of a coming king, these
are being developed throughout the Old Testament. When we get to the New Testament
and we see Paul explaining the good news that has come
in Jesus Christ for example, in Romans chapter three it
says that God overlooked, the rebellion, the sin, the transgression in the past because he was
looking forward to the coming of Jesus Christ whose death
on the cross would pay the penalty for our rebellion and sin. So in the Old Testament
basically you have people looking forward to Jesus
Christ dimly perceived you have a person like
Job his friends think that he’s experiencing all
these problems because he sinned, he knows that
he has a good relationship with God that he’s a believer in the Lord. So he doesn’t understand
why he’s going through this difficulty, he wants
an audience with God, where God will vindicate
him and prove him right in court and he argues that somewhere out there, there has to
be a kinsman redeemer. The nearest relative
who will take his part, plead his case in court and defend him, and I would argue that it’s Jesus Christ very dimly perceived,
that he’s looking forward to a coming deliverer a coming savior who will deal with the problem, and then now that we have
the coming of Jesus Christ, we have the Gospels, we
have the life of Christ, we have his death, we has his resurrection and we have the good news
preached by his qualified agents the apostles, we instead
of looking forward, we’re looking back on
the event that brings salvation to the world. (upbeat music) – [Narrator] Thanks for
watching Honest Answers don’t forget to subscribe. (upbeat music)

Jean Kelley

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56 COMMENTS

  1. Varga Erwin Posted on March 9, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    By faith.
    🥰

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  2. Renee L. Posted on March 9, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    People were saved in the Old Testament by Grace, Faith and Obedience no different from today.
    The Messiah said it the best:
    http://Come-Out-Of-Her-My-People.com
    ENJOY THE TRUTH!!

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  3. jxoxxsxxxexxxxl Posted on March 9, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    Not clear though, but you said by faith.

    The only people in the old testament who were 100% saved by God, were Enoch and Elijah.

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  4. mjl0611 Posted on March 9, 2020 at 1:29 pm

    Man, that’s a wonderful beard

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  5. Sweps Limun Posted on March 9, 2020 at 1:41 pm

    OMG I m just new born ATHEIST .

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  6. vikotto Posted on March 9, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Still leaves me confused, and I’ve been a Christian for over 40 years. There’s got to be a simpler way to explain this.

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  7. Tom Ferrie Posted on March 9, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    How can anyone with a bit of common sense believe this nonsense 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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  8. Jacob Carpenter Posted on March 9, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    This is a beautiful answer to an important question, Dr. Gentry. Thank you so much for it.

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  9. Yakup Korkmaz Posted on March 9, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    They were saved by trusting in Yahweh, and his promises. Same way we are saved today. That is all that was needed to be said.

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  10. Ewan Kerr Posted on March 9, 2020 at 3:06 pm

    A very good question and a reasonable attempt at an answer. I suppose it depends how you understand being "saved". Clearly, the patriarchs believed in Yahweh. The nation of Israel was in a covenant relationship with Yahweh. Jesus, a Jew, prayed to and worshiped Yahweh. Do you think Yahweh might have something to do with it?

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  11. J Ernest Posted on March 9, 2020 at 3:34 pm

    This is an excellent explanation: clear, efficient, and complete. Thank you!

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  12. jxoxxsxxxexxxxl Posted on March 9, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    The explanation should be like this.

    The good people in the old testament were still saved by Lord Jesus Christ and He brought them with Him to heaven.

    There is called Abraham's Bosom or Purgatory. The good people's soul were placed in there and the bad ones in hell. Abraham's Bosom and hell are actually near to each other. You could check it on Lazarus' story.

    When Lord Jesus died on the cross, He descended into hell (in which the Abraham's Bosom also there) and proclaimed Himself, and He brought the good souls up with Him to heaven.

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  13. 84mvalles Posted on March 9, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    Thank God for teachers like this!!! God bless!

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  14. Randy D Posted on March 9, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    I agree with most of what was said except about that little thing about Eve not really being the mother of all living. I also believe OT saints understood way more than we give them credit for knowing. I certainly believe they understood there would be a coming Messiah Who would be the final sacrifice for sins. God uses Abraham from Genesis 15 and Psalm 32 in Romans 4 to explain our justification FROM THE OT. There are extremely clear pictures and prophecies of the sacrifice of the Messiah throughout the OT. Many, many details of the crucifixion of Christ are scattered through the OT starting with Genesis 3:15. OT saints were saved by grace through faith in their coming sacrifice of the Messiah. Nobody has ever been saved any other way. During the period of John the Baptist ministry he tells the ones around him, "Behold THE LAMB OF GOD which TAKES AWAY the sin of the world." This was FROM OT teaching that John was preaching through the Holy Spirit that Jesus was the foretold Lamb of God who would make the final payment for sins.

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  15. Stacy Caruso Posted on March 9, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    So it is the seed of the woman– women don't have seed, men do. So it is Jesus who is the Seed of God who destroys Satan. So why does it say seed of the woman?

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  16. 10:4 littleAl Posted on March 9, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    Excellent. I always believed that progressive revelation was involved. They had to believe as much as what was revealed at that time, rather than using the whole bible and forcing it backward on Adam, Noah etc.

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  17. Paul Stephen Cox Posted on March 9, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    3 times The Bible says Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him as or for righteousness. It is belief in the trur God the same that it is in the New Testament it's just able to be a focused belief now in the Godman Jesus Christ the Lord the true middleman between us and the Godhead and the mediator of the New Covenant who seal our savation in His own blood the ultimate scapegoat for the sins of the whole world.

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  18. Susi Wakeman Posted on March 9, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    I really like listening and watching Dr Gentry, thank you xx

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  19. KF Gabriele Posted on March 9, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    This explanation seems to skip along the edge of the rift between the descendants of Esau and those of Jacob. The descendants of Jacob hold exclusively to the old testament, where the descendants of Esau accept the new testament and Jesus as the foretold savior. As explained in the Bible, the covenant of the old testament was broken and the lineage of Jacob no longer had a covenant, priesthood, temple, or sacrifice, and didn't accept the new testament or Jesus as their savior. So, how do they receive forgiveness or salvation?

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  20. George In S.C. 4 Posted on March 9, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    Excellent!
    Only one way to remove guilt….Accept, I said Accept forgiveness through faith in the grace of God and the only begotten son, our redeemer and saviour, the Prince of Peace and the Living word of God, King of Kings and Lord of Lords
    Jesus Christ

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  21. Smeaton Lighthouse Posted on March 9, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    Technically speaking it is God who is our Saviour. In the Old Testament God saved individuals on the ground of their faith in God. However, it is completely on the ground or basis of what the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished on the cross when He is own self bore our sins in His body on the tree. We read in 2 Corinthians ch. 5 v 21: For he hath made him who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
    Christ died and offered up Himself and shed his precious blood for the remission of sins approximately 2000 years ago. The sin and sins question was dealt with then precisely. We are saved by believing and looking backward. The Old Testament saints were saved by their faith in God who could saved them because God knew that His Son would sacrifice Himself hundreds of years later. It was according to the determinate counsels and foreknowledge of God. Acts ch. 2 v 23

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  22. mt Kim Posted on March 10, 2020 at 1:07 am

    Thank you for the vedeo brother!
    And can you explain the reason why many people call the Lord’s name as Yaweh?
    It looks weird to me
    because Jesus Christ never mentioned of the pronunciation of YHVH.

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  23. Go Johnny Go Posted on March 10, 2020 at 3:30 am

    Not all mankind are saved by faith from Genesis to Revelation. Rightly divide the word of God, mister.

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  24. M Villla Posted on March 10, 2020 at 5:08 am

    – "For by GRACE are you saved through faith…it is a gift (GRACE, that is) of God". __ In the Old Testament, the only way to be saved is by fulfilling the Law. The only one to fulfill the Law is Jesus Christ, the son of the Living God. _ The thief on the cross was saved according to the Law: see Eze.. 18:19-28. _ Anyone who died under the Law will be saved by faith in the PROMISE of the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection: while those under the New Testament will be saved as the Lord Jesus taught his apostles: "…"Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the NAME of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and YOU SHALL receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

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  25. shawng7902 Posted on March 10, 2020 at 6:46 am

    A person sure can learn a lot from this channel in no time. The repetition in the bible gets to me sometimes because of the lines repeated over. Then when you look at the whole thing and the repetition it absolutely blows my mind. How linked together everything is over 1000s of years. Recently heard it explained the 1st sacrafice was to cover Adam and Eve when they were naked. Then the animal sacrifice. All leading up to the 1 perfect sacrifice. That was not of this world without a doubt.

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  26. Geoff Shelley Posted on March 10, 2020 at 7:49 am

    The sacrificial lamb was a symbol or type of the great and last sacrifice, even the lamb of God, pure and unspotted. From Adam on the people were to look forward for the coming of the one who would redeem us, even Jeshua.

    Faith on him then and now (which includes receiving the covenant) and by his grace, in love, saves all. The covenant inherently entails doing His will, not ours, and enduring, no matter the cost. A high price, but the promise is that it is worth it.

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  27. el-sig Posted on March 10, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    What a tediously lengthy answer!

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  28. danielsmusicvideos Posted on March 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    The promised land is how they where saved. They taught it was a place on earth.

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  29. Timothy Fish Posted on March 10, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    Romans 8:29 seems to provide the answer when it says that those He foreknew (which would be the OT believers) were conformed to the image of His Son. Even though the sacrifice hadn't taken place yet, they were still saved by the work that Jesus did on the cross. They didn't understand all of that, but God gave them all the benefits of the sacrifice even though it was a future event for them.

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  30. Filmbay Posted on March 10, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    Super lecture.
    Can you do a sermon on "the unforgiving debtor"?

    The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant is a parable of Jesus which appears in the Gospel of Matthew. According to Matthew 18:21-35 it is important to forgive others as we are forgiven by God, as illustrated by the negative example of the unforgiving servant.

    Amen

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  31. Donna Thornburg Posted on March 10, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Thank you was wondering about this.

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  32. mike schreib Posted on March 11, 2020 at 2:12 am

    Salvation by believing in a "coming deliverer" or "looking forward to" the cross is a Mormon doctrine (1 Nephi 11:33, Jacob 7:11, 2 Nephi 6:9, etc). Nothing could be further from the truth! No one was ever saved "on credit" ahead of time. They could only establish their "righteousness" by obeying the laws and commandments (Deut 6:25) which had to be maintained until death (Ezek 18:24), yet even then their personal righteousnesses were regarded "as filthy rags" (Isa 64:6). It could get them as far as "Abraham's bosom" (place of comfort), but not to heaven. It was a system of WORKS pure and simple.

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  33. ndm0227 Posted on March 11, 2020 at 4:32 am

    This is a very bad understanding of Jewish theology.

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  34. Luis Perez Posted on March 11, 2020 at 10:22 am

    “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
    ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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  35. David Almeroth Posted on March 11, 2020 at 11:44 am

    Friends. If Abraham and all his male children did not get circumcised in the flesh, and if both men and women of Abraham not obey, honor and worship God … question: Would they have been "saved" ?

    Answer: No.

    So circumcision was and is not just a sign of being Hebrew or Jewish. And obedience to God for both men and women is not just something we do after being "saved."

    Circumcision along with sacrifice and obedience is our part. Protection, blessing and instruction is God's part. Together those things combine into a relationship. Both sides are needed because there can be no salvation or "saved" without free will. There us no true love of God unless we have the free will, the choice not to love and obey God. Simple.

    So what does it mean to be "saved" ? … saved from committing more sin ? … hardly.

    Friends. Salvation is not just thinking about the finished work on the cross like this false teacher wants you to believe. Because the cross means nothing without the White Throne Judgement. That's when Lord Jesus will say: It is done.

    And so the New Covenant or New Testament talks about circumcision of the heart and ears, it is a circumcision made without hands. Water baptism is not simply an outward expression of one's inner change. Water baptism is our first order of business which cleanses us from sin.

    When we sin after water baptism of repentance for the remission of sins … we are to have our feet washed.

    Friends. A relationship with God is not just a mental ascription to Lord Jesus' incredible sacrifice on the cross. A relationship is there to get us to be holy … to sanctify us. We need a process to reconcile ourselves back to Lord Jesus when we sin. Water baptism is our first cleansing. Foot washing are our subsequent cleansings.

    From there it's a matter of turning away from sin using our own free will. It's also a matter of crying out to Lord Jesus when we need help.

    False teachers like this love to sell the idea of a guaranteed ticket to heaven because most people want that kind of comfort which lets them go back to their old ways thinking their old ways mean nothing because a guranteed ticket to heaven is there when they die. Not so.

    Today is the day of salvation, not yesterday. And since we are not promised tomorrow, today is the day of salvation.

    Paul says we should walk in good works. Paul says we are nearer our salvation than we we first believed. Paul says Lord Jesus will return to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.

    James says faith without works is dead.

    Lord Jesus says He will reward every man according to his works. Lord Jesus says if you don't believe in His words then believe in His works. Lord Jesus says if we don't produce good works we will be broken off and cast into the fire. Lord Jesus says if we backslide into sin and lukewarm-ness, He will spew luke warmers out of His mouth.

    Salvation is: justification, sanctification and glorification.

    Justified by the life, death, resurrection and ascencion of Lord Jesus.

    Sanctified by a life time of good works, and the first of which is to be born again of water and Spirit.

    Glorified is when we are made holy and allowed to enter into a perfect Kingdom of Lord Jesus.

    So justification is not the entirety of salvation. Today is the day of salvation not yesterday. And since we are not promised tomorrow, today is the day of salvation.

    Paul says we should walk in good works, and we are nearer our salvation than we we first believed. Paul says Lord Jesus will return to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.

    James says faith without works is dead.

    Lord Jesus says He will reward every man according to his works. Lord Jesus says if you don't believe in His words then believe in His works. Lord Jesus says if we don't produce good works we will be broken off and cast into the fire. Lord Jesus says if we backslide into sin and lukewarm-ness, He will spew luke warmers out of His mouth.

    So faith in Lord Jesus is ongoing and continuous. Faith is active. Lord Jesus says freely give because you have freely received.

    Be born again of water and Spirit:

    Man of God. Not woman of God but a man of God who dunks you under water completely declaring exactly, "I baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins."

    Titles baptism: "I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit/Ghost for the remission of sins." Titles baptism is incomplete because it does not use the name of Jesus.

    Titles baptism is a modern day equivalent to John the Baptist's baptism. John The Baptist did not baptize using the name of Jesus, so we look to Acts 19: v1 thru v7 to see Paul completing our understanding that water baptism must be performed using the name of Lord Jesus. All the Apostles went out and performed miracles and water-baptisms using the name of Jesus Christ as well.

    The only way Matthew 28: v19 and Acts 19: v1 thru v7 and Acts 2: v38 can be reconciled is with the understanding Lord Jesus is Father Jesus. Lord Jesus is Father, Son, and Spirit. Lord Jesus has hundreds of titles, more titles than any other leader in history. Father, Son, and Spirit are just three of Jesus' titles.

    Before you go to that man of God, ask him if he knows the difference between titles baptism and baptism in the name of Jesus. If he doesn't then find someone who does. Apostolic Pentecostals know what is proper water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

    You don't have to consider yourself an Apostolic Pentacostal just because you were water baptized by an Apostolic Pentacostal minister. You are being born again into Lord Jesus and His church, and Apostolic Pentacostal ministers are the few men of God who understand the importance of using the name of Jesus.

    Lord Jesus was, is and will always be a Jew Who said follow Him. Lord Jesus never talked about groups or denominations. And it was people in Antioch who first called Lord Jesus' followers Christians. So the first Christians were Jews.

    And we gentiles who are born again of water and Spirit are grafted into the Jewish faith and can just as easily be broken off and cast into the fire if we don't produce good works. If all a person can do is pray ? … then that is indeed a righteous work which is commanded by Lord Jesus.

    So, after you are born again of water and Spirit, and you want to call yourself a Messianic-Jew, or an Apostolic Pentacostal, or a Christian … so be it. I choose to call myself a born again believer in Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth Who is the one and only Lord God of Heaven. Remember, the oldest doctrine in the Holy Bible: God is one. Amen.

    And either before [Acts 10: v44] or after [Acts 19: v6] your water baptism of repentance, you will receive a second and separate Spiritual baptism.

    Once you have both water and Spiritual baptisms … Congratulations, consider yourself born-again of water and Spirit.

    But that is just a beginning, it's not a guaranteed ticket to heaven because a person can always walk away from their faith by their own free will. Or just as tragic, a person's free will can let them backslide into sin and lukewarm-ness.

    To avoid those dangers we must be in an ongoing relationship with Lord Jesus, meaning a cooperation. Among other things, we must study and share His truth of the Holy Bible with others.

    When we sin after being water baptized we are to have our feet washed as commanded and demonstrated by Lord Jesus at the Last Supper. As well. Fasting from food and other things, along with prayer is a must. As singers would say, in harmony. Amen.

    Don't tell people you're "saved." Instead tell people you began-to-be-saved, are being-saved, and will-be-saved as when Lord Jesus returns in glory or He calls one home before that incredible event.

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  36. יהוחנן לואיס Posted on March 11, 2020 at 2:16 pm

    Shalom.

    I am familiar with these teachings, although I do not believe there is a harmonious agreement with the general premise behind dispensational theology, supersessionism (replacement theology) or any of their many motley forms and the Scriptures (Bible 66 books).

    I can certainly assert that context misalignments are the common culprit behind many misunderstandings that the Body of Messiah makes when interpreting the Torah, Prophets, Writings, and Renewed Covenant. The other two mistakes that these popular teachings within the Body of Messiah often fail to emphasize and rectify, are the lack of “proper” (kosher) Hebrew Word understanding and then also a lack of understanding behind the Semitic culture of the period and time with which they were then written.

    Fundamental Protestant and Evangelical theology obstinately maintain the position that Yahweh (The Lord God) changed His mind about the Covenant of Torah at the Advent of Yahushua the Messiah's atonement and Ministerial endeavors. While on this Earth, the “Express Image of Yahweh” was once again represented by the Messiah but with a suit of flesh, if you will pardon my borderline crude vernacular.

    ““For I, Yahweh, don’t change; therefore you, sons of Jacob, are not consumed.”
    ‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:6‬ ‭See also Deuteronomy 33:27, Ibrim (Hebrews) 13:8, Ya’akov (James) 1:17, Numbers 23:19, Psalm 105:25-27, and 2 Timothy 2:13 to name but a few.

    ““Grass shall wither, the flower shall fade, but the Word of our Elohim (God) stands forever.””
    ‭‭Yeshayah (Isaiah)‬ ‭40:8‬

    We believe the Messiah made appearances before but not through a Virgin Birth like He did in the Gospel accounts. He most likely appeared to Avraham, Mosheh, Jacob and possibly others as a malak or “messenger”, commonly known as an Angel. A little over 2,000 years ago the prophesied Virgin Birth became not just a promise, but a fulfillment of that promise. The Tanahk (Genesis to Matthew) has given multiple prophetic predictions of this glorious event and certainly should not be coined “Old” for that reason alone.

    The teachings we often confront within the Body of Messiah have led many of our family astray, not just by their twisted implications within many varied teachings but with direct contradictions that have forced the hand of many “church fathers” to develop queer doctrines . Doctrines they hoped would “reroute” these supposed contradictions back to some semblance of harmony within the “seemingly” conflicted texts. These “doctrines” have changed and even morphed over time like a piece of produce in the hot sun.

    It reminds me of construction, even to a lesser degree. The builders have a problem. The architects messed up so the plumbers take street 90’s and what we call “stubbies” to fix the issue. Once done the piping looks like the LOS Angels freeway interchange, 😝 except at least one obvious truth drastically separates this analogy from the quagmire we have in Evangelical/Protestant circles.

    Yahweh’s Word is infallible. It does not need to be fixed with these doctrines of men!! Yet that is exactly what our leaders have done over and over again while many of our family in Messiah turn a blind eye. 🙉🙈🙊

    The 40,000 fractured denominations in Evangelical and Protestant circles alone certainly testify to that! 😑 🤕
    Am I speaking to somebody?!!

    The Writings of the Bible are an Eastern Document that is written in Hebrew. The Renewed Covenant was also written in Hebrew and then translated to Greek. As time passed the Scriptures were eventually translated into all languages to reach the Northern Kingdom of Israel that was exiled by Yahweh in 721 BCE after they were crushed by the Assyrian Army. 2 Kings, Chronicles and Hosea 1, a little known and taught fact. Again, the Messiah came to regather the exiles of the Northern Kingdom that were scattered to the four winds, first Spiritually through His First coming and then literally (physically) at His second coming in the near future.

    Even today many are still known as Gentiles (the nations by unbelief and or by improper teachings both within and outside the Body of Messiah). Matthew 15:24, Ephesians 2:11-22, Ezekiel, Zephaniah 3:20 36:24, Deuteronomy 4:27, 28:64, Romans 10:1 to name a very few of a great many verses concerning our heritage, ancestry, and future.

    In other words, do not try and teach a large group of people that have a severe identity complex how to live unless you also teach them exactly who they are!

    The Scriptures confidently declare that the Torah was renewed and then completely restored to our people. (Matthew 5:17-20) which is fitting with what the Messiah said in Matthew 15:24 and what is also declared in Luke 1:32 and verse 33.

    "Here, the days are coming," says Yahweh, "when I will make a renewed covenant with the house of Isra'el ישראל and with the house of Y'hudah.
    It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt; because they, for their part, violated my covenant, even though I, for my part, was a husband to them," says Yahweh. For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days," says Yahweh: "I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. Jeremiah 31:31-33 and repeated in Ibrim (Hebrews) 8:8-12, and 10:16-17

    The Renewed Covenant is the Torah. The Law of Messiah and the Law of Moses are truly one and the same. “For if you believed Moses, you would have believed Me, since he wrote about Me.
    “But if you do not believe his writings, how shall you believe My words?” John 5:46, 47
    Luke 9:33, 16:31, Malachi 4:4-5

    “If these ordinances depart from before me,” says Yahweh, “then the offspring of Israel also will cease from being a nation before me forever.”
    Yahweh says: “If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel for all that they have done,” says Yahweh.
    “Behold, the days come,” says Yahweh, “that the city will be built to Yahweh from the tower of Hananel to the gate of the corner.
    The measuring line will go out further straight onward to the hill Gareb, and will turn toward Goah.

    The whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields to the brook Kidron, to the corner of the horse gate toward the east, will be holy to Yahweh. It will not be plucked up or thrown down any more forever.” Yahweh our God speaking through the Prophet Jeremiah in Chapter 31 verses 36-40.

    “He who rejects Me, and does not receive My Words, has one who judges him: the Word that I have spoken shall judge him in the last day. Because I spoke not from Myself, but the Father who sent Me has given Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life.1 Therefore, whatever I speak, as the Father has said to Me, so I speak.” John 12:48-50. See also John 3:18-19, 7:16 and Matthew. 19:17

    To further the point, look carefully at the definition of the word "new" as many have come to know the Hebrew Word "Chadash" (renewed)-

    The Hebrew Word חדשׁ "Chadash" H2319 is the same exact word as H2318 and literally means
    1) to be new, renew, repair
    1a) (Piel)
    1a1) to renew, make anew
    1a2) to repair
    1b) (Hithpael) to renew oneself
    BDB Definition:

    I often tell people that the Covenant was "new" to many of us but not to our God.

    With that being said, please know that the Word "Christian" was never ever used by the Messiah to describe (in any way) who his chosen people are. Not once will you find Yahshua addressing his followers as ״Christians” in the gospel accounts.

    Nor did Rav Sha'ul (The Apostle Paul) call the Body of Messiah this term.

    Acts 24:14 “And this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the Elohim (God) of my fathers, [Exodus 3:15] believing all that has been written in the Torah and in the Prophets,

    Nor did Paul disqualify Torah observance for the gentiles who were learning who they truly were in Messiah. But like so many “wolves” in sheep’s clothing, teach, many have been told something entirely contrary to what Yahushua the Messiah taught. A half-truth and twist, if you will.
    2 Peter 3:14-17 confirms this fact as does the entire tone of Scripture with proper context in mind.

    As upsetting as that is to the larger portion of those who hold to Evangelical and Protestant Theology, there is no disputing these truths unless you hold fast to your traditional teachings and not to the authenticity of the Torah, Prophets, Writings and true message within the renewed Covenant.

    “Forsaking the command of Elohim, you hold fast the tradition of men.”
    And He said to them, “Well do you set aside the command of Elohim, in order to guard your tradition.
    “For Mosheh (Moses) said, ‘Respect your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’
    “But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me, is Qorban (that is, a gift),” Mark 7:8-11.

    We have all been warned but yet many in the Body of Messiah continue to interpret Scripture for themselves by twisting the contexts and meanings as if many were literally blind and deaf. They continue to disregard the true "Good News" within the Scriptures. Those of us in the Messianic Community reach out in empathy as we watch in horror as history repeats itself. Isaiah 6:10.

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  37. יהוכנן לבי Posted on March 11, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    Yahweh only has one people.

    Not two.

    To those that walk after the Messiah in truth; be warned.

    There are a few here that claim things The Torah and the prophets never said a thing about. Such as Israel being put on the shelf for a “time”.

    Also known as the “dogma” of dispensational / replacement theology. Completely fabricated by uninspired men, to be honest.

    A combination of supersessionist theology, covenant theology, replacement theology and various modes of interpretive dispensationalism which are all queerly related.

    The comments and teachings these individuals “make up” on the Torah (Bible) are incorrect. Some sound relatively convincing at first glance and other statements are as far fetched as they get.

    I am well aware that a dispensationalist, (supersessionist or not),
    is trained to contravene everything the original covenant of Torah proclaims as if it was not renewed.

    Was the covenant renewed? Of course it was or the entire Bible is a falsehood full of contradictions and error.

    Jeremiah 31:31-33. The Torah is the new (Renewed) covenant.

    Chadash (New) Strongs number H2319 is word origin 2318 – “Renewed”

    The covenant was new to us, not the Messiah.

    Confirmed in Hebrew 8:8-10.

    “The word Olam (Forever) translated and then contrasted against the heretical dispensationalism largely accredited to John Darby. (But not the originator).

    // A topic hardly exposed \

    The hyper-grace (Christian / Protestant movement) is gleaning billions of dollars from Yahweh's (The lord God's) Storehouses using this very faulty interpretive "doctrine/ of men".

    It contradicts “Circular” Eternal Hebraic thought that our God uses and rather, uses linear Greek thought.

    These theological enterprises are all to common within the body of Messiah. These said monies are supplanted into futile allocations of motley pagan vanities & futilities.

    (Many who claim to be educated in Scripture are "fronting".)

    Such Pastors & Evangelists are actually wolves in The pulpit. Their lifestyles showcase their greed via deceptive retention of key Torah principles. Torah is perfect truth that instructs and guides us to a righteous lifestyle that only the Messiah could redeem us to.

    The twisted sin-justifying doctrines spun by these supposed leaders and their hypocritical "ways" that few can see consequently teach that Yahweh Eloheinu (the Lord/Adonai/Ha'Shem..our God) "changed His mind about the commands" using " ages of progressive change".

    Yet Yahweh clearly states….."I am YHWH who changes not"..hence His name "The I Am (Existent One).”

    There is no such thing as "changing ages and stages of progressive dispensation” in Scripture. Truly that is heresy!

    RESTORATION…YES!!

    Scripture is not 'Old’ versus Renewed (New) nor 'Grace’ versus Torah (LAW)'.

    Not without serious twisting of the Apostles Paul’s letters and other Scriptures.
    2 Peter 3:14-18

    Is Restoration proclaimed in Scripture instead of changing progressive ages that contend with each other? …yes!

    Scripture after Scripture teach this and ignoring The First Two-thirds of Scripture by lightly teaching these eternal truths to fit a contradictory doctrine is a futile endeavor.”

    Hos 1:10 “Yet the number of the children of Yisra’ěl shall be as the sand of the sea, which is not measured nor counted. And it shall be in the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ they shall be called, ‘You are the sons of the living Ěl.’ And the children of Yehuḏah and the children of Yisra’ěl shall be gathered together, and appoint for themselves one head, and shall come up out of the earth, for great is the day of Yizre‛ěl! Hosea 1:10-11

    Not one single mention in the prophets about a gentile christian church.

    “For the Master Yahweh (The Lord God) does no matter unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.”
    ‭‭Amos‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭

    Darby theorized that Isaiah 32 was a prophecy that required a future fulfillment and realization of Israel's kingdom yet he was not aware that anyone born again in Messiah is Israel, both physically and Spiritually. Ephesians 2, Galatians 3:28, 29.

    As a result, the “church” G 1577 was seen as a separate program not related to that kingdom.

    G1577 (Thayer)
    ἐκκλησία
    ekklēsia
    Thayer Definition:
    1) a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly
    1a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating
    1b) the assembly of the Israelites

    The word “church” is a Anglicized word for “The Congregation of Israel”. 😑

    Disregarding historical context, background and Hebrew word meanings, many “theologians” not only developed other related heresies but allowed previous heresies of this sort to “fuel” each other throughout the last two millennia.

    But I digress. That is another entire topic for another entire day. 😓 🤕

    “In everything give thanks, for this is what Yahweh wants from you who are united with the Messiah Yahushua. Don’t quench the Spirit, don’t despise inspired messages. But do test everything — hold onto what is good, but keep away from every form of evil. May the God of shalom make you completely holy — may your entire spirit, soul and body be kept blameless for the coming of our Master Yahushua the Messiah. The one calling you is faithful, and he will do it.”
    ‭‭1 Thessalonians 5:18-24‬ ‭

    Omein v`Omein
    (Amen & Amen)

    Shalom

    In Messiah,

    Brother John

    🕎 יהוחנן 🕎

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  38. Paul Beduhn Posted on March 11, 2020 at 3:45 pm

    They where saved by their faith in the Messiah to come.

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  39. Bogdan Vojnovic Posted on March 11, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    God makes something first, that ends badly. God makes a new start, it ends in the Flood. God makes another world and man anew, and that goes down the tube, again… So, everything unfolds according to God's plan?

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  40. D H Posted on March 11, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    It’s not the “Old Testament.” It’s the Hebrew Bible. You pretend like Jews don’t exist anymore. Yet Jews continue to practice Torah based faith and reject Christianity in spite of the intense pressure by Christians (and the rest of the world) to stop it. This man is completely ignorant.

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  41. Addjoa preko baah Posted on March 11, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    Paul says God is no respector of persons. Peter also makes such a statement in Acts 10. God saves everyone by the same way through grace and Jesus is God's grace personified.

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  42. 123tominator007 Posted on March 11, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Amen brother! Gen 15:6 answers that question precisely!

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  43. wilby1414 Posted on March 12, 2020 at 3:08 am

    Totally incorrect.

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  44. Gerald Lawson Posted on March 12, 2020 at 5:34 am

    FAITH saved in the OT. By there report…

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  45. living water Posted on March 12, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    people under the law were given animal sacrifices to remit their sins but those sins were still not paid for and ultimately they would have to be paid for. the Israelites were no longer liable for their sins once the atonement of the animal sacrifice was performed but those sins had to be paid by someone's death which ultimately was christ. The substitution of the animal only covered you temporarily. The book of hebrews explains it also Roman's 1-5
    israel needed the RIGHTEOUSNESS that comes from God but they went on to establish the righteousness that came from the law. israel failed MISERABLY because they had no faith in God but had faith in the system of the animal atonement. THE LAW HARDENED THEIR HEARTS. THERE'S two aspects of the atonement, Jesus obeyed the law perfectly making him acceptable to God as the perfect sacrifice to be the ULTIMATE payment for sin and also taking the law out of the way nailing it to the cross.
    the law is found "IN CHRIST", the law is found IN CHRIST, the new covenant in his blood.
    IN CHRIST there's no CONDEMNATION,
    IN CHRIST we have redemption, justification, sanctification, GLORIFICATION.
    when we sin we are chastened by the lord so that we are not condemned with the world.
    be blessed

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  46. Daniel Patric Posted on March 12, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    From Genesis to Revelation – Everyone is saved by the FAITH, Through Grace of God.

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  47. fredc61 Posted on March 12, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    Faith in God but no promise of heaven.

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  48. Jack Uber Posted on March 13, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Thank you, Dr Gentry. That was a wonderful portrayal of the tremendous grace of God in the face of our sin.

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  49. Douglas Parise Posted on March 13, 2020 at 5:09 pm

    How does he know all this sh*t

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  50. Titus Posted on March 13, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    Should the last portion of Mark chapter 16 be removed from every Bible? Can I believe the Bible is God’s inspired word if this segment wasn’t included by any biblical book author?

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  51. Jonathan Fruh Posted on March 13, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    “Saved by faith in Jesus Christ dimly perceived”

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  52. יהוחנן לואיס Posted on March 14, 2020 at 12:38 am

    For those that are not aware.

    All Scripture is to be lived by.

    Deuteronomy 8:3, Luke 4:4, Matthew 4:4 & II Timothy 3:16.

    Therefore the Word Baruch ברוך (blessed) in B'resheet (Genesis) 32:13 in context with all Scripture, is speaking of the promise of multitude (the return of the Northern Kingdom of Israel) after its imminent exile into the pagan nations during the diaspora of 721 BCE; or as the Apostle Paul phrases the “restoration of Israel” (grafting in).

    This is Hebraic interpretation and mirrors the Paleo (ancient) Hebrew which is Pictorial (obvious) as much as it is cryptic to those who are 'right in their own mind".

    Our Elohim (God) is not mocked.

    Hosea 4:6 and Acts 17:30 alone exhort us not to remain ignorant to the deep matters of our God, for indeed, all of His words matter.

    Amĕin &

    Shalom 🕎

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  53. Tom Posted on March 14, 2020 at 4:02 am

    Is every Jew before Jesus’ time saved? When the Bible says all Israel will be saved, does that include Jews that have lived and died since Jesus time on earth and rejected him as messiah? Or jews that are alive during the tribulation that put their faith in Christ?

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  54. Daniel Blair Posted on March 15, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    No one was saved in the Old Testament by faith alone they were made safe from going to hell by being sent to Abraham's bosom instead by following a faith and works system established by God.

    If people were actually saved in the Old Testament they would've went to heaven to be with God in his presence, but they weren't.

    No one went to heaven to be in the presence of God until after Jesus died on the cross for our sins and it was only after such a thing that people were truly saved by faith alone.

    After Jesus died on the cross he went to preach to those who were in Abraham's bosom and after Jesus rose from the dead he took everyone that was in Abraham's bosom to heaven, so everyone that was in Abraham's bosom can't boast before God for getting saved and getting access into heaven to be in the presence of God for the faith and works that they did in the Old Testament because such a thing didn't get them access into heaven to be in the presence of God it only granted them access into Abraham's bosom…Jesus was the one that removed them from Abraham's bosom into heaven to be with God.

    Those who were in Abraham's bosom before Jesus died on the cross were still separated from God because they were in Abraham's bosom and not in heaven.

    Remember…hell was right next door to Abraham's bosom across a chasm and people in both places could see and hear each other as revealed in the true story that Jesus told about the rich man and Lazarus.

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  55. Sonjay Williams Posted on March 15, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    What exactly is the kingdom of God?

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  56. יהוחנן לואיס Posted on March 16, 2020 at 4:24 am

    Yahweh only has one people.

    Not two.

    To those that walk after the Messiah in truth; be warned.

    There are a few here that claim things The Torah and the prophets never said a thing about Scripture Such as extreme theological context over emphasis on Torah commands some ch as immersion (baptism) whilst neglecting of other commands.

    Also; Israel being put on the shelf for a “time”.

    Also known as the “dogma” of dispensational / replacement theology. Completely fabricated by uninspired men, to be honest.

    A combination of supersessionist theology, covenant theology, replacement theology and various modes of interpretive dispensationalism which are all queerly related.

    The comments and teachings these individuals “make up” on the Torah (Bible) are incorrect. Some sound relatively convincing at first glance and other statements are as far fetched as they get.

    I am well aware that a dispensationalist, (supersessionist or not),
    is trained to contravene everything the original covenant of Torah proclaims as if it was not renewed.

    Was the covenant renewed? Of course it was or the entire Bible is a falsehood full of contradictions and error.

    Jeremiah 31:31-33. The Torah is the new (Renewed) covenant.

    Chadash (New) Strongs number H2319 is word origin 2318 – “Renewed”

    The covenant was new to us, not the Messiah.

    Confirmed in Hebrew 8:8-10.

    “The word Olam (Forever) translated and then contrasted against the heretical dispensationalism largely accredited to John Darby. (Bit not the originator).

    // A topic hardly exposed \

    The hyper-grace (Christian / Protestant movement) is gleaning billions of dollars from Yahweh's (The lord God's) Storehouses using this very faulty interpretive "doctrine/ of men".

    It contradicts “Circular” Eternal Hebraic thought that our God uses and rather, uses linear Greek thought.

    These theological enterprises are all to common within the body of Messiah. These said monies are supplanted into futile allocations of motley pagan vanities & futilities.

    (Many who claim to be educated in Scripture are "fronting".)

    Such Pastors & Evangelists are actually wolves in The pulpit. Their lifestyles showcase their greed via deceptive retention of key Torah principles. Torah is perfect truth that instructs and guides us to a righteous lifestyle that only the Messiah could redeem us to.

    The twisted sin-justifying doctrines spun by these supposed leaders and their hypocritical "ways" that few can see consequently teach that Yahweh Eloheinu (the Lord/Adonai/Ha'Shem..our God) "changed His mind about the commands" using " ages of progressive change".

    Yet Yahweh clearly states….."I am YHWH who changes not"..hence His name "The I Am (Existent One).”

    There is no such thing as "changing ages and stages of progressive dispensation” in Scripture. Truly that is heresy!

    RESTORATION…YES!!

    Scripture is not 'Old’ versus Renewed (New) nor 'Grace’ versus Torah (LAW)'.

    Not without serious twisting of the Apostles Paul’s letters and other Scriptures.
    2 Peter 3:14-18

    Is Restoration proclaimed in Scripture instead of changing progressive ages that contend with each other? …yes!

    Scripture after Scripture teach this and ignoring The First Two-thirds of Scripture by lightly teaching these eternal truths to fit a contradictory doctrine is a futile endeavor.”

    Hos 1:10 “Yet the number of the children of Yisra’ěl shall be as the sand of the sea, which is not measured nor counted. And it shall be in the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ they shall be called, ‘You are the sons of the living Ěl.’ And the children of Yehuḏah and the children of Yisra’ěl shall be gathered together, and appoint for themselves one head, and shall come up out of the earth, for great is the day of Yizre‛ěl! Hosea 1:10-11

    Not one single mention in the prophets about a gentile christian church.

    “For the Master Yahweh (The Lord God) does no matter unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.”
    ‭‭Amos‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭

    Darby theorized that Isaiah 32 was a prophecy that required a future fulfillment and realization of Israel's kingdom yet he was not aware that anyone born again in Messiah is Israel, both physically and Spiritually. Ephesians 2, Galatians 3:28, 29.

    As a result, the “church” G 1577 was seen as a separate program not related to that kingdom.

    G1577 (Thayer)
    ἐκκλησία
    ekklēsia
    Thayer Definition:
    1) a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly
    1a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating
    1b) the assembly of the Israelites

    The word “church” is a Anglicized word for “The Congregation of Israel”. 😑

    Disregarding historical context, background and Hebrew word meanings, many “theologians” not only developed other related heresies but allowed previous heresies of this sort to “fuel” each other throughout the last two millennia.

    But I digress. That is another entire topic for another entire day. 😓 🤕

    “In everything give thanks, for this is what Yahweh wants from you who are united with the Messiah Yahushua. Don’t quench the Spirit, don’t despise inspired messages. But do test everything — hold onto what is good, but keep away from every form of evil. May the God of shalom make you completely holy — may your entire spirit, soul and body be kept blameless for the coming of our Master Yahushua the Messiah. The one calling you is faithful, and he will do it.”
    ‭‭1 Thessalonians 5:18-24‬ ‭

    Omein v`Omein
    (Amen & Amen)

    Shalom

    In Messiah,

    Brother John

    🕎 יהוחנן 🕎

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