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Gender Critical | ContraPoints


– On the day that The
Female Eunuch was issued in America, a person in flapping draperies rushed up to me and grabbed my hand. Thank you, it breathed hoarsely, thank you so much for all
you’ve done for us girls! I smirked and nodded and stepped backward, trying to extricate my
hand from the enormous, knuckley, hairy, be-ringed
paw that clutched it. The face staring into
mine was thickly coated with a pancake make-up
through which the stubble was already burgeoning,
in futile competition with a Dynel wig of immense luxuriance and two pairs of false eyelashes. Against the bony ribs
that could be counted through its flimsy scarf dress swung a polished steel
women’s liberation emblem. I should have said, you’re a man. The Female Eunuch has done
less than nothing for you. Piss off. (“Man! I Feel Like a Woman!”) Let’s go adult human females. (“Waltz of the Sugar Plum Fairies”) First of all, a reminder that this video is a female-only space. So if there are any men
here today, get out! I mean, unless you enjoy secretly watching the very interesting things
that women do on our own, in which case, like, comment, subscribe! So look, it’s 2019, I think
most people have heard about TERFs, trans-exclusionary
radical feminists. You know these fanatics
like Germaine Greer who call trans women it
and think that trans men are lost lesbian sisters. You guys know about trans men, right? Male-to-female is not the only
type of transgender person. There’s also people who were born, well, people who were assigned,
people who were always, people who identify. TERFs don’t like being called TERFs, they think it’s a term of
disparagement, which, it is. They call themselves radical feminists, RadFems or lately, gender critical. The idea is that gender
femininity, masculinity, gender roles, all that, it’s
all a patriarchal construct, and biological sex is the only thing that makes a person a man or a woman. In the past on this channel, I’ve always caricatured
TERFs as being like angry, man-hating bigots, whose only real tactic is accusing trans women
of being creepy men. And there definitely are some people who are really like that, but I want to be fair,
I want to be balanced, so in preparation to make this video, I posted an invitation on
Twitter asking people who used to be gender critical feminists
to share their stories with me. And I got hundreds of responses, a lot of them from women who
have had traumatic experiences with men and who at one time found comfort in a rigid view of gender
where women and men are completely separate species, where women are safe
and men are dangerous. And for a lot of those women, allowing trans people into
their picture of the world at first challenged their
sense of stability and comfort. It was difficult emotional work, work that they needed to
do, but still difficult. And that makes total sense to me, like it’s very easy for me to understand why someone would feel that way. So it’s not just evil bigots who are attracted to the
gender critical worldview. And in this video, I don’t want to just parody TERFs. This time, I want to really engage with gender critical
ideas in the public arena of free speech open communication
dialogue conversation debate idea marketplace
expression discourse. Maybe I’ll even get in
touch with my inner RadFem. She’s a little shy, sure, but she’s here, not queer, reads a lot of Germaine Greer. And when I am having a dark
night of the soul, sweaty, she’s feeling XXtra biological and when the full moon shines she speaks. (“Waltz of the Sugar Plum Fairies”) Ugh, this is agony. I’m a biological woman trapped in the body of a male narcissist. Can you imagine? Okay, so she’s a little
out of touch, sure, but she’s not a bigot, you know, I’m sure she doesn’t hate trans people, she just has a few concerns. You know it’s like you’re not even allowed to ask questions anymore or
you’re accused of transphobia. We’re all just expected to
conform to this gender ideology that we the public never
got a chance to debate. We didn’t vote for trans orthodoxy, yet here we are permitting
biological males to run rampant in women’s spaces, foisting
penises on lesbians, and indoctrinating our children
with the ludicrous dogma that girls can become boys
with a change of costume. Oh, it rattles my chromosomes. She goes on like that for hours. It’s like being trapped at the
bottom of an elevator shaft with the ghost of Anita Bryant. Do you kids even know who Anita Bryant is? Do you have any idea how many decades I fought for your rights? Wait, is Anita Bryant even dead? Scholars remain divided. It does seem like it’s getting harder to have conversations
about difficult topics. You know, our children are coming of age in this Orwellian nightmare
where you can face consequences for simply having a
politically incorrect opinion about the Jewish question. It’s PC run A-mok, it’s
a Hannuhkatastrophe! Problematic banter aside, the current discourse
about transgender issues is an explosion of untreated sewage. We have far-right politicians menacing us with legal discrimination and erasure, we have fear-mongering
and hostility in the press and that, combined with high
rates of family rejection and mistreatment, puts trans
people on the defensive. So in public, we tend to stick
together, concede nothing, and shield ourselves behind
simple, unambiguous slogans. Trans women are women. Which is true, we are women. But, that was a sinister
but, watch out for that. What happens is that people
who don’t really understand trans issues, in other words most people, have lots of unanswered
questions about the details. And in particular, people who are familiar
with feminist theory, but not trans feminism,
might wonder things like, how can you be a woman without the oppression experiences of girlhood? Why can’t you just be a feminine man instead of equating womanhood
with sexist stereotypes? Why are misogynistic
gender ideologues erasing the vocabulary needed to
discuss female oppression? Trans people don’t like
engaging with these questions because most of the time
they’re just brandished as weapons against us. You know, it’s like when
a man asks if society is so sexist against women, then why is it that men are 97% of combat fatalities, feminazis? Like you could sit there for three hours trying to make a nuanced
feminist rebuttal, but wouldn’t you rather just
eat a bowl of thumbtacks? Because nine times out of 10, that guy doesn’t give a shit
about combat fatalities, he’s just trolling you to shut down whatever actual
point you were making. And the same goes for people telling me, you sure do like wearing nails and makeup, is that all you think
there is to being a woman? Could you define womanhood for me? Like they don’t actually care, they’re just trying to make
my life worse for 20 minutes. But if you really are sincerely wondering about the answer to these troll questions and many people are, then you actually need fairly complicated and nuanced answers. Which is why they make
good troll questions because they waste a lot of your time. In this video, I want to take at face value the questions and concerns associated with
gender critical hostility to trans people and I want to try to give nuanced answers rather than dogmatic ones. Now, the problem with being
nuanced is that it’s hard, so I might f*ck something up. And a lot of trans people
want me to represent them absolutely perfectly, so if
I do f*ck something up, well, just read me to filth on Twitter like you always do, you
little shits, love you! Let’s watch an instructional
video to learn more. – Can a man ever be as
glamorous as a woman? We have 13 beautiful
women on our show today, only the catch is that some
of them are actually men. – Oops, wrong channel. Concern one, gender metaphysics. There’s no such thing as a
man trapped in a woman’s body. There are no pink brains and blue brains. Just because you want to be a woman, doesn’t mean you are one. This whole sacred dogma of
gender identity makes no sense. Trans people often use
metaphorical language to describe feelings that are
difficult to put into words and that’s how I understand the trapped in the wrong body language. Is there literally such a thing as a male soul trapped in a
female body or vice versa? I don’t personally believe there is, but I’m a little biased, I sold my soul to a Sudanese businessman and all I got in return was
this shitty ketamine habit. As for brains, there is
some evidence suggesting a correlation between
binary transgender identity and cross-sex brain anatomy, but the evidence really
doesn’t justify claims about female brains in male
bodies or anything like that. Brain differences between men and women are statistical averages
of things like gray and white matter density, not as the term female brain implies, distinct anatomical structures
likes penises and vaginas. So personally I don’t believe in any gender metaphysics at all. I’m kind of an unorthodox trans person, so much for the unquestionable
dogma of the trans cult in that I think of myself as
a woman who used to be a man, rather than as having always been a woman. But it’s important to remember that while I may not
fit the typical profile, I am not real and not valid. But in any case, I live as a woman now, and that’s kind of just what’s happening whether you like or not so I’m not sorry? My view is well-expressed
by Catherine MacKinnon. “I always thought I don’t care how someone “becomes a woman or a man;
it does not matter to me. “Anybody who identifies as a
woman, wants to be a woman, “is going around being a
woman, as far as I’m concerned, “is a woman.” Concern two, gender stereotypes. What do you mean you live as a woman? You mean you reinforce
oppressive gender stereotypes by putting on makeup, nails,
and a fake girly voice. Listen, sweaty, first of all, my girly voice is very f*cking real. Second, my clothes, makeup, voice, none of this makes me a woman. No trans woman thinks that femininity and womanhood are the same. Rather, we’re using a cultural language of feminine signifiers to prompt others to see us for what we are. Sometimes I get the impression
that my cis girlfriends don’t really understand why I’m presenting in such a meticulously feminine way, like they think I’m wearing
ombre lips at 11 a.m. because I’m playing
some kind of clout game, which I am, but also if
one person calls me sir, that’s gonna ruin my day, so I’m desperately throwing
glitter spaghetti at the wall in hopes the light catches
some glimmer of womanhood. I think butch or gender
non-conforming cis women sometimes side-eye
hyper-feminine trans women because they don’t identify with this vision of womanhood at all and they’ve had to
struggle since childhood against a society that’s told
them they have to be feminine. And I completely sympathize with that. I think there should
be more gender freedom, less coercion, less restriction. But also, I’ve had to fight
against the same society that told me I should really,
really, really, not be this, so, I feel like we should be able to form some kind of solidarity here. Concern three, abolish gender. But you should be moving beyond
the patriarchal constructs of masculinity and femininity,
not conforming to them. Real feminism aims to abolish
gender, not reinforce it. Abolish gender? Well that sounds like an ambitious project for one transsexual, but
I mean I’ll give it a try. (snaps) Solanus be praised. No nails, no makeup, I’m wearing a nice little
gender-neutral robe moment. I did it everyone, I abolished gender. Well, I guess long hair is
still a gender signifier, so I should probably get rid of that. (gong rings) How is she though? She’s feeling a little genderless. I guess the way I position
my body is still gendered and there’s a gendered
cadence to my voice. So what I’m gonna do is just
hold my hands up genderlessly and speak in a genderless robot voice. My name is 5443461 I have no gender. Patriarchy is over. I guess English is still
patriarchal language, right? So I should probably be communicating with a series of genderless sounds. (imitating robot) I can’t stand this, f*ck this. Look, maybe abolishing
gender is a good idea, like, wouldn’t it be better
if your genitals at birth didn’t determine what kind
of life you could live? But that is a utopian project requiring massive systemic change,
kind of like abolish borders. Your utopian pipe dream is valid! And denying trans people
their gender identity because abolish gender is kind of like denying citizenship to immigrants
because abolished borders. Like you’re targeting the people
who are the most vulnerable under the present system and
the leveraging that system against them under the
pretense of abolishing it. You know, you don’t see
gender critical feminists in Kim Kardashian’s
Instagram comments like, why are you wearing a dress,
Kim, you creepy misogynist. You should be abolishing gender, not reinforcing stereotypes
designed to oppress women. No, they don’t attack
the gender expression of people with power and influence. They’re all on Twitter,
harassing some poor, newly out trans woman with 200 followers and calling her a creepy man and mocking her for being feminine ineptly or being too feminine or
not being feminine enough. It’s almost like when
they say abolish gender, what they really mean
is abolish trans people. It’s almost like this is a hate movement hiding behind a handful of
pseudo-feminist platitudes. But surely, I must be missing something. Concern four, male privilege. It is absolutely typical of
male privilege and entitlement that you think you can just
claim womanhood for yourself without living any of the
struggle that entails. So look, I’m a successful,
white, middle-class trans woman. In the grand scheme of things, I’m really not very oppressed. I may not be the 1%,
but I am the tra*ny 1%. So I don’t like to complain about every little microaggression I experience because under the circumstances, it just seems a little gauche. And I don’t like things that are gauche. But I’ve had cis feminists
of my race and class tell me that I have no idea what
it’s like to be talked over and interrupted by men. – [Man] Actually, Kropotkin. – Or to experience street harassment or to have to treat every first date like a potentially
life-threatening situation and it’s just bizarre to
me that they think that. Like, what do you think my
experience in the world is? You think men treat me as their equal? You think street harassers
are gonna treat me with dignity and respect
because I have a Y chromosome? Hey beautiful, where you going baby? Where you going? Oh, it’s a tr*nny. Excuse me, sir, my mistake. Please proceed freely to your destination. Come on, people, use your heads. When you have Germaine Greer
calling trans women it, what do you think the guy on the steps of the liquor store is gonna say? When a trans woman doesn’t pass, it’s not like society simply
treats her like a man. No, you get treated as monster
gender, pronouns it and spit, and male privilege is
not a good description of that experience at all. Once you start passing as a woman, it’s really a step up, even
though women get treated bad, because it’s still better
to be a she than an it. Now gender critical feminists
are really skeptical of the whole notion of passing. They think they can always clock a tran and they assume everyone else can, too. But that’s just not reality. I mean, I’m only a year and
a half into my transition and at this point, I’ve had zero surgeries and it’s been like six months since I was last misgendered offline. I mean, a person with a good eye for it will probably clock me and maybe a lot of people
have just been indoctrinated into politically correct gender ideology, but like, you really think
the gas station attendant and the nail technicians and
the heating and plumbing guy are all calling me miss and
ma’am because of postmodernism? I know some of you are gonna sneak off to your shitty little RadFem forums and obsess over how
manly and clockable I am, but like at the end of the
day, what am I gonna trust, the deranged hate-posting
of 25 frothing anons or every social interaction
I’ve had for months? I’m so sorry you can’t
handle that I’m natural fish. I’m ahi tuna and you’re mackerel sweaty. Take a f*cking sip, babes. – [Theryn] I love that. Concern five, male socialization. So you had a male upbringing, you never experienced
the traumas of girlhood, you benefited from male
privilege for decades, and now you think none of that matters? You are who you are because
of how you were socialized, not because of how you dress. Alright, it’s time to
crack open the nuance. So on the one hand,
you’re partially right. I have no idea what it’s
like to be catcalled as a nine-year-old girl or what that does to a child’s psyche. That kind of thing didn’t
start happening to me till I was an adult, when I knew what I was getting
into and was ready for it. That’s very different from
what cis women go through. My upbringing and adolescence
has more in common with a typical man than a typical woman and many of the
experiences from those days I simply can’t make sense
of as female experiences. I absolutely benefited from male privilege and it did influence who I was and who I was in my
late teens and early 20s was an anti-feminist
shithead who had no idea what women go through and I feel ashamed and
alone in admitting that. Because in trans discourse, it’s just accepted as
obvious that trans men know what it’s like to be raised as women and to be influenced by those
formative female experiences, but when it comes to the
early life experiences of trans women, we’re supposed to say, when I was five years old, I loved wearing my mom’s high heels or else say nothing at all. There’s that wonderful
quotation from Sylvia Plath where she describes the
way living as a woman stifles an adventurous spirit and her longing for a male experience. – [Narrator] “Yes, my
consuming desire is to mingle “with road crews, sailors and
soldiers, barroom regulars “to be a part of a scene,
anonymous, listening, recording “all this is spoiled by
the fact that I am a girl, “a female always supposedly in danger “of assault and battery. “My consuming interest in
men and their lives is often “misconstrued as a desire to seduce them “or as an invitation to intimacy. “Yes, God, I want to talk to
everybody as deeply as I can. “I want to be able to
sleep in an open field, “to travel west, to walk freely at night.” So I got to do all of that in my early 20s and what I discovered is I
hate sleeping in open fields, I despise the west, and I’d
really rather stay inside collecting ceramics and sucking dick. Now I’m not saying that makes me a woman and I’m not saying that
Sylvia Plath is a man because she wanted to slam back brewskis with road crews for reasons
that are inconceivable to me. What I am saying is that,
when I hit my mid-20s and realized that I was
inhabiting a gender, body, and sexual persona that were
drastically wrong for me. And I tried every possible
alternative to transitioning before realizing that I
had an irrepressible need to become a woman. So I changed. And when I changed, society’s
treatment of me changed. Socialization doesn’t end with childhood, it’s a lifelong process. For example, when I transitioned,
my friends, family, fans, enemies, stalkers, and
radical feminist haters started commenting on my
physical appearance about 20 to 30 times more often and I had to get used
to that being something that matters a lot more. That said, resocialization takes time, and sometimes, trans
people early in transition have most of that process ahead of them. I also think we have to take into account the age at which a person transitions. Kim Petras, whomst we stan. – [Theryn] Oh, we stan.
– We stan. – Oh, we stan.
– I stan. Oh, we stan. She transitioned as a child and I imagine was socialized more or less the same as a cis woman. Whereas, Caitlyn Jenner,
whomst, well, just whomst, she made millions of
dollars in men’s sports, she had six children by three wives, transitioned in retirement at age 65, and told Buzzfeed that the
hardest part of being a woman is figuring out what to wear. This is the only trans woman
most people have heard of. It makes me want to cry. Like, I’m not saying Caitlyn
Jenner is not a woman, but I am saying that anyone
who wants to argue that male privilege hasn’t
shaped her perspective, doesn’t have a leg to stand on. But also, trans women
often don’t experience male socialization the way cis men do. Many trans women are feminine and queer before they transition, and have basically always
experienced a kind of femmephobia that is rooted in misogyny. Some trans women also identified as women years before transitioning and internalized society’s
messaging about women more than society’s messaging about men. Now that’s still not the
same as living in society as a girl from birth, but it’s also pretty different from the socialization
of masculine cis men. I think the reason some trans
women feel the need to argue that trans women never
experience male privilege is that a lot TERFs use male privilege as a proxy for calling us men. Pull up your zipper your,
male privilege is hanging out. I suspect the reason this is
such a major talking point for many gender critical feminists is that there’s an element
here of stolen valor, this sense of injustice
that people are claiming their identity without
experiencing their oppression. It reminds me of what
in the trans community are called transmedicalists, people who insist the
only real trans people are those who experience
agonizing dysphoria. In both cases, there is a
sense that the essential thing that confirms your identity is pain. What it is to be trans
is to despise your body, what it is to be a woman
is to be brutalized by men. You didn’t suffer like I’ve suffered. You don’t know what it’s like! You know, I’m tempted
to strike back by saying that you don’t know what it’s
like to occupy an identity so stigmatized that most of
the people who are attracted to you in private are too
ashamed to admit it in public. You don’t know what
it’s like to have a body so non-normative that you’re shut out of whole areas of society. I could go on, but this
America’s Next Top Victim contest does nothing but to provoke
infighting between trans women and cis women at a time
when we should be marching side by side to destroy
video games forever. #YesAllGamers. Concern six, reproductive oppression. You don’t know what it’s
like to grow up being shamed for your periods, to
fear unwanted pregnancy, to have to fight for
your right to abortion, to bear the pain of childbirth. Well, yeah, that’s true. My inner RadFem sways in
a gentle victorious samba. I do think it’s important
for trans women to stand in solidarity with cis women
on issues like period equity and abortion rights and to
learn about the experiences of cis women to form a
more complete understanding of the female condition. But of course, no
individual woman experiences all the things women experience and individual women understand
the meaning of womanhood in drastically different ways. For some women, having babies is the most essentially womanly experience. For others, maybe it’s having an abortion. I mean, not actually, but you know, TERFs pretend it is to own the tr*nnies. For me, it’s receiving 12-paragraph emails in my business inbox from married men struggling through the existential crisis of some kind of shemale-themed
sexual awakening. Also, do you want to be
a guest on my podcast, Free Speech Radio? But also, not all women
experience their womanhood as essentially oppressive or centered around the pains
of reproductive capacity. When Shania Twain sang
Man! I Feel Like a Woman!, she wasn’t talking about
having a coat hanger abortion in the bathroom of a Greyhound
station in Chattanooga. Man, I feel like shit. (“Man! I Feel Like a Woman!”) Concern seven, erasing female vocabulary. Trans activists are erasing
the vocabulary needed to discuss women’s bodies
and women’s oppression. We’re now expected to
talk about pregnant people and menstruators just to
appease the gender ideologues. Well, I for one am not a menstruator, I am a W-O-M-B-Y-N and
I will not be erased. Okay, if you’ve heard
the terms menstruator or pregnant people and are thinking, what the f*ck kind of Orwellian
newspeak gender cuckoldry is that, take a deep
breath, clear your mind, here’s the tea. Some medical organizations
have recently begun using the term pregnant people
instead of pregnant women. And in 2016, Planned
Parenthood included the word menstruators in a Tweet about
the repeal of a tampon tax. This has prompted some conservative, TERF, and Christian publications
to post panicked commentaries warning that the entire
concept of womanhood is being erased. But in fact, medical language that assumes that everyone with a uterus is a woman erases trans men and non-binary people who menstruate and get pregnant. So saying pregnant women in
this context erases them, whereas saying pregnant people
includes them and cis women and doesn’t erase anyone
except for Cincinnatians because we all know they’re not people. Take your shitty chili elsewhere. I’m a woman, not a goddamn menstruator! What kind of misogynistic madness is it to reduce women to
their capacity to bleed? I agree with you. The word menstruator
sounds pretty dehumanizing. And the trans men I’ve
talked to about this aren’t really the biggest
fans of it either. Sometimes it takes a while to
settle on language that’s both inclusive and usable, and my prediction is that menstruators is a not gonna work out. Maybe people who menstruate? But why can’t I just say
woman, that’s what I am! You can just say woman! That is what you are! No one is asking that you
stop referring to yourself as a woman. Institutional medical language
is designed to be inclusive and therefore impersonal. No one is proposing that we
stop calling individual women pregnant women or expectant mothers. Your obvious misogyny is nakedly exposed. I notice it’s only female
anatomy you’re trying to erase. I notice you’re not suggesting
doctors start saying people with prostates. Oh, I am definitely suggesting that. But trans activists are
invading feminist spaces and telling women we can’t
discuss our own bodies. I have no problem with
cis feminists discussing or celebrating periods
or wearing pussy hats at political marches or free bleeding all
over the National Mall. I mean, someone has to. The National Mall is not
gonna bleed on itself. I totally get why cis feminists
would want to celebrate their reproductive anatomy
in defiance of a society that routinely shames and
subjugates them for it. The problem arises only when menstruation or reproductive anatomy are
used to misgender trans men or exclude womz whomst doth not bleed. I mean, trans women do bleed, but only when we cut ourselves. ♪ No one knows what it’s
like to be a sad tran ♪ Concern eight, TERF is a slur. TERF is a slur designed to silence women. Nay, it is hate speech designed to incite violence against women. The word TERF is a pejorative
for a person who dresses up transphobia with radical
feminism, but it’s not a slur. A slur is a pejorative that
targets someone’s race, religion, gender, or sexuality. The word misogynist is pejorative. It has only negative connotations and is often used as an
insult, but it’s not slur. It targets bigoted behavior and beliefs, not a type of person. The same is true of the word TERF. It’s a derogatory term
for beliefs and behaviors that deserve to be derogated. The phrase gender critical
is really a euphemism, recently created to replace TERF with a phrase that doesn’t have
such negative connotations. It’s perfectly analogous
to the phrase race realist, which was invented by racists
wanting a more flattering and respectable description
of their beliefs. I’ve used the term gender
critical in this video to be inviting to fence-sitters, but I refuse to cooperate with
racists who want me to use their euphemisms and I generally
do the same with TERFs. Now I’m a very agreeable,
non-confrontational person. I usually like to call people by whatever they wanna be called. But when it comes to race
realist or gender critical, every time I use these phrases, I’m essentially becoming an accomplice in their scheme to legitimize bigotry. And I have especially little
patience for TERF requests for linguistic decorum
since most of the language used by TERFs is specifically designed to be maximally hurtful, harmful, and insulting to trans people. For instance, TERFs refer to any and all trans-related
surgery as mutilation. They call trans women TIMs, an acronym for trans-identified males and trans men TIFs,
trans-identified females, obviously with the intent
of mockery and misgendering. Just to give you a sample
of typical TERF prose, here are a couple comments
from literally the first thread I saw on the gender critical subreddit while I was working on this video. – [Woman] And I have to admit
to considerably more contempt for the likes of (bleeps) since he makes a point of
taking selfies with ridiculous, insulting-to-women facial expressions. I also get a good laugh at TIMs putting their hands up to their chins. They’re trying to look all dainty and to hide their Adam’s apple, but it only draws more attention to their enormous man hands. I saw an AGP photo shoot where
this neanderthal in his 50s was posing with one
leg up like a flamingo, his hands dainty at his ear. In every photo, even group ones at events. Now I was just grossed out. So there it is. That’s what this is really about. In this video, I’ve gone through a list of gender critical concerns and I’ve provided responses
I hope the average person will find fair. But I would be lying to you by omission if I were to end this video
without being real with you about what the core of the
gender critical movement is actually about. See what TERFs do in
public is they advance what on the surface are a series
of feminist critiques of trans people. For example, the critique that
hyper-feminine trans women are reinforcing misogynistic stereotypes designed to oppress women. At a glance, this appears
to be a critique of the way some trans women behave
and present themselves. But in the next breath, these same TERFs will argue
that trans women are mannish, unfeminine perverts who
are forcing masculinity into female spaces. So if trans women being feminine is bad and trans women being masculine is bad, then there really is
no way that trans women could behave that TERFs would accept. So in fact, what TERFs really oppose is not trans women being feminine or trans women being masculine, but trans women being trans women. In other words, the fundamental issue underlying all these phony
concerns is transphobia, simple animosity toward trans
people’s very existence. And it’s pretty easy to recognize that just from tone they use
when they talk about us. When you read through the
gender critical subreddit, or TERF twitter, what you see is just the flimsiest cloak of feminist platitudes draped
over a jagged thorn tangle of visceral disgust and targeted hate. The pure exuberant malice of
it all is not even disguised in the Germaine Greer quote
from the opening of this video or in the average gender
critical forum post. The enormous, knuckley,
hairy, be-ringed paw, the pancake make-up
through which the stubble was already burgeoning, this Neanderthal in his 50s, ridiculous, insulting-to-women
facial expressions. Now, I was just grossed out. What gender critical
feminism really amounts to is a baroque palace of rationalizations built on a foundation of pure disgust. In this respect, it’s
just like homophobia. You know, I came of age when gay marriage was the most contentious social debate and the arguments people made, that marriage was under attack, that the children would be traumatized, that bestiality would come next, that this tiny minority was
undermining all our institutions with their outrageous demands,
it was all just nonsense. If you got a conservative drunk, as I used to be able to do, Sylvia I wish I could give you what I had, he would just blurt out the truth, which was that the sight of two grown men locking lips made him wanna vom. Homophobia and transphobia
do not originate in the frontal cortex. They come from the lizard brain
disgust response we evolved to deal with blood, infection,
vomit, feces, flies, the hairy paw, the stubble burgeoning through the pancake makeup, bleh! It’s a disgust I can recognize at a glance because it’s the same disgust I felt toward myself for years. It’s the disgust I felt
when I clocked a trans woman on the L platform in
Chicago five years ago and decided then and there to abandon my first attempt at transition. It’s the disgust I still
struggle against every day. It’s the disgust that’s always
at the bottom of transphobia because transphobia is always the same. It always comes from the same place and it’s always expressed
in the same kinds of ways. I recently rewatched
that classic viral video from an old episode of Cops where a police officer
humiliates a Native American trans woman named Stephanie Yellowhair. The power-tripping cop
demands to see her ID, misgenders her, deadnames her,
mocks her clothes and makeup, and calls her a crossdresser. It’s all so repetitive and familiar. It’s the same arsenal of petty sadism you see in the right-wing press,
on 4chan, on doxing forums, on gender-critical
Reddit, it’s all the same. What everyone remembers
about Stephanie Yellowhair is her unbreakable wit and confidence in the face of transphobic abuse. The single most iconic moment is when, after being grilled in
the back of the cop car amid a flurry of deadnaming
and misgendering, she glances back at the cop and says. – Excuse my beauty. – [Officer] Excuse your beauty, okay. – And that, right there, is
the single greatest quality of trans feminine culture, the resilience of trans women, the assumption a regal posture in even the most abject conditions. And that’s really all you can do because there’s just no
reasoning a transphobe out of bigotry. So, to any diehard
gender critical feminists still watching this, what else can I say except,
on behalf of trans women, excuse my beauty, TERF. (“Waltz of the Sugar Plum Fairies”) Okay, a tongue pop isn’t a
solution to every problem. Or is it? I posted an invitation to
Twitter for people who used to be gender critical feminists to shoot me in the back of the head. It’s PC run A-mak. Look at him, okay. – [Theryn] It’s so stupid. – It’s so stupid. – Run A-mak. – Corona Premiere. The TERF beer of choice. ‘Cause my chromosomes need
to unwind after a hard day of hating trans people. It is abso, these titties. I just catch that, I just
saw them, and I just lost it. I just, it’s just, what? I am a W-M-B-Y-N. You do know how I do
struggle with spelling. V-I-C-T-R-O-Y. ♪ No one knows what it’s
like to be a sad tran ♪ ♪ To be a trash can ♪ ♪ For trap chaser’s jizz ♪ Burgeoning.

Jean Kelley

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100 COMMENTS

  1. ContraPoints Posted on March 30, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Leave your concerns in the comments below
    #YesAllGamers

    Reply
  2. leia Posted on December 19, 2019 at 6:44 am

    Anyone who calls another human being "it", I do not fuck with.

    Reply
  3. Peepsqueek Posted on December 20, 2019 at 3:55 am

    Does anyone know JK Rowling's youtube account so I can tag her to check this out

    Reply
  4. the_dw3 Posted on December 20, 2019 at 7:58 am

    did she just diss the America's greatest variety of chili?

    Reply
  5. Jay Sorensen Posted on December 20, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Revisiting this video (on repeat) was a welcome lifeline from the firestorm that is Twitter exploding about JK Rowling today. Thank you, Natalie, and I wish you didn't get bullied off Twitter by folks freaking out about other things this year.

    Reply
  6. Kodo Elder-Groebe Posted on December 20, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    Relevant yet again, after the recent Rowling shit

    Reply
  7. josski32 Posted on December 21, 2019 at 5:11 am

    I really appreciate you making this video and being able to hear the answers to these questions which I have seriously wondered about the trans movement. you were fair and articulate. thank you.

    Reply
  8. Дашенька Posted on December 21, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    You look so good without make up I’m- (you look great with makeup too of course!)

    Reply
  9. Chicken Wilson Posted on December 22, 2019 at 4:38 am

    I don't get this garbage, some cross dresser talking about some mumbo jumbo

    I don't see any arguments or ideas here

    Reply
  10. Heathen Potato Posted on December 22, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched this video, and every time I come back to it I’m struck by how absolutely ridiculous some of the demands TERFs make of trans women are. Like, as a cis woman I wouldn’t have the slightest clue of where to even begin if someone asked me to define womanhood for them. Hell, I can’t even really explain what it is that makes me feel comfortable with my own gender and sex, to be perfectly honest.

    The idea that the validity of your gender identity is based on trauma and oppression is also so foreign to me. I’m aware I’m a very lucky person, I was born in a first world country where gender expectations are fairly lax, and I’ve never really had the experience of not being heard or taken seriously due to being a woman. Nor have I ever been catcalled or experienced trauma at the hands of a man. The idea that you can’t be a woman without experiencing “the traumas of girlhood” is absurd to me, because I haven’t experienced that trauma, and yet I highly doubt any TERF would call me less of a woman for it.

    Reply
  11. Emily Posted on December 23, 2019 at 1:33 am

    i'm a blaire white fan and that's how I found this video but damn I'm a Contra fan now too girl your humor, costume, characters, and talking points are AMAZING

    Reply
  12. Devil Type Posted on December 23, 2019 at 4:10 am

    God, Natalie is beautiful.

    You really can’t tell that she was assigned male at birth.

    Metamorphosis often creates some of the most beautiful things in life.

    Reply
  13. Mikaele Baker Posted on December 23, 2019 at 11:08 pm

    TERFs: We should abolish gender, not reinforce stereotypes designed to oppress women!

    Me, a trans-nonbinary: Okay, I'm neither a man nor a woman.

    TERFs: Wait no.

    Reply
  14. Ditje Datje Posted on December 24, 2019 at 1:27 am

    No contrapoint delivered. You have way too much budget. Crazy pays I guess.

    Reply
  15. Mary Stankiewicz Posted on December 25, 2019 at 7:16 am

    Holy shit. This gave me everything I’ve been needing to fill out the rest of my trans ally arsenal. Thank you

    Reply
  16. strawberryseason Posted on December 25, 2019 at 9:33 am

    So many problems with this video! It's full of straw arguments. And false analogies. To say that gender critical feminists are the same as race realists, that's unfair. I'm actually really glad that you're not producing much content anymore. You are a manipulator.

    Reply
  17. Suralin0 Posted on December 25, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    "Time to crack open the nuance."
    whiskey intensifies

    Reply
  18. James Ru Posted on December 25, 2019 at 4:28 pm

    "That's Disgusting – Unraveling the Mysteries of Repulsion." by Rachel Herz If you have not read it, I highly recommend it.
    https://www.amazon.com/Thats-Disgusting-Unraveling-Mysteries-Repulsion/dp/0393344169

    Reply
  19. Fredo Friday Posted on December 25, 2019 at 6:05 pm

    Who's the dude in the dress?

    Reply
  20. Brujx 4U Posted on December 25, 2019 at 11:15 pm

    Who could watch this? You have to have a lobotomy to sit through this. The weird shit they have to do to their mouth alone would take black tar heroine high to get through. Cringe to infinity.

    Reply
  21. Matheus Cardoso Posted on December 26, 2019 at 7:07 am

    Terfs sound like when i decided to hate straight people for not understanding the pain of being gay, with time I saw that homofobia affect everyone differently, realized I was only being resentfull and hateful, and that only keeps other lgbt people from coming out.

    Reply
  22. Spoorthi Pema Posted on December 26, 2019 at 7:33 am

    Loved the video!
    I've been a feminist all my life and having recently discovered something like gender critical or TERFs exist, blew my mind!
    For me feminism was always all about inclusion. But then I realized as a brown woman, white feminism doesn't really include me. So I get it!
    As a brown feminist, all solidarity to trans men and trans women, always!

    Reply
  23. dark samus Posted on December 26, 2019 at 5:05 pm

    Honestly terfs can go fuck off

    Reply
  24. MeLlamabanTerry Posted on December 27, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    Dear Natalie, I know this video is quite old, but I just discovered you three days ago, and I am binging on your videos since then. I generally don't comment anywhere on the internet, because I feel that I don't have the required skills to discuss in a serious and constructive way through this mean. Nonetheless, I do feel the urge to leave you a comment about this video, that you may never read, but still, I wanna do that. I agree with you over almost everything you have argued, and I find it absolutely sad and panicking that it could exist a category of feminists that turns our battle into hate towards people who are experiencing such enormous stigma and, let's be serious, almost persecution, as trans people are. I want it to be clear. Nonetheless, I also want to point out that recently on the internet (which is not the best academic space, but it is the most suitable for all) Radical Feminism is considered as a direct synonym of TERF, which you, that are so educated, know it's definitely not true. Radical Feminism as a vague of feminism from the 70s and 80s has been the first movement in recognizing and studying intersectionality, which is possibly one of the most relevant notions that the second half of 900 left us, and which is nowadays a great source of new ideas and political demands. I personally identify as a Radical Feminist in this very sense, as an intersectional feminist believing that patriarchy can't be destroyed if I, as a white, European, middle-class, educated, straight cis-gender women don't do the effort of recognizing all the privileges I have and support other women's struggles, as an ally, not invading their safe space, and welcoming our united spaces. Basically, this comment was just in order to say that #NotAllRadicalFeminists (lol) – Please don't leave us aside, because radical feminism has done and still does great contribution to the cause.

    Sincerely, a secret lover of Tabby

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  25. Jordan Wilson Posted on December 28, 2019 at 1:43 am

    I see your videos in my recommendations all the time and have to click at least to rewatch your iconic intros.

    Reply
  26. Jody Finley Posted on December 28, 2019 at 5:15 am

    You're a fucking idiot. You might wear the label " transgender " however it only translates to troglodyte.

    Reply
  27. Edward Vogel Posted on December 28, 2019 at 8:02 am

    We love you mommy

    Reply
  28. Lorrayya Williams Posted on December 28, 2019 at 9:18 am

    I was like yaaassss to the ending quote. Trans femmes are powerful. I stand in solidarity with all my sisters not just my cisters.

    Reply
  29. tits mcgee Posted on December 28, 2019 at 11:54 pm

    1:10 reminds me of A Clockwork Orange lmao

    Reply
  30. danyisthebest winsalotguyman88 Posted on December 29, 2019 at 5:17 am

    ContraPoints wouldn't you admit that society would be better off if more trans ppl just killed themselves? If so please do.

    Reply
  31. danyisthebest winsalotguyman88 Posted on December 29, 2019 at 5:19 am

    Hey dude your a man. Disgusting.

    Reply
  32. Aurelia Rose Posted on December 29, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    I checked out r/gendercritical and oh my god. I feel sick…it’s an anti-trans circle jerk where dissenting opinions are deleted by mods.

    Reply
  33. Smith Middleton Posted on December 30, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    In order to get a balanced view i asked other people who agreed with me for their opinions.

    Reply
  34. Person Who Does Things Posted on December 30, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    Why? Why do transphobes exist? Why????

    Reply
  35. Casey Lee Posted on December 30, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    i'm sorry, but "excuse my beauty, terf" is my 2020 slogan.

    Reply
  36. Jesse PD Posted on December 31, 2019 at 2:38 am

    Completely hyper focusing on your channel and binging over the past few days. I love your balanced debates and the sheer level of aesthetic and editing techniques in your videos. The level of makeup and artistry in the characters alone is amazing and I'm learning so much about the trans woman experience as someone who otherwise wouldn't know as a trans masc.

    Reply
  37. lcflngn Posted on December 31, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    Tried explaining real life elsewhere but found just sharing your vlog makes way more sense, much much simpler. Thank goodness. And thank you.

    Reply
  38. Kyle Stillwell Posted on December 31, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    I still rewatch this from time to time. Still the best ContraPoints episode to date

    Reply
  39. Pizza Addict Posted on January 1, 2020 at 5:08 am

    sends this to JK Rowling

    Reply
  40. Pizza Addict Posted on January 1, 2020 at 5:12 am

    Funny how even though TERFs claim people can dress however they like, just not use certain labels or identities, what they perceive as a “man” wearing a dress or makeup or doing so without conforming to their standard of femininity is disgusting to them. I mean, on those subreddits, they don’t just go “ugh I saw this MAN calling themselves a woman and using she/her pronouns, how can HE be so entitled” they say “GROSS he had armpit hair and a dress and makeup and it’s just- ew gross nonononononono”

    Reply
  41. Faunnegun name Posted on January 1, 2020 at 7:28 am

    When you started talking about vocabulary and menstruators I thought you were talking about men's traitors and was briefly surprised by how uppity terfs were getting.

    Reply
  42. bridget willers Posted on January 2, 2020 at 9:26 am

    As far as I can tell, I'm not allowed any kind of existence in the world of the TERFS

    Reply
  43. Dragonite7000 Posted on January 2, 2020 at 11:20 pm

    "Scholars remain divided."

    OMG ;'D

    Reply
  44. Njörun Ránsdóttir Posted on January 3, 2020 at 12:57 am

    The laugh at Hanukah-tastrophe!— Dear God woman, you are precious and adorable.

    Reply
  45. Emily Witherell Posted on January 3, 2020 at 1:05 am

    I've been called a TERF but I love you. Please keep being you.

    Reply
  46. Aun aprendo Posted on January 3, 2020 at 2:08 am

    Aaccckshuaalllyy, while this is important to understand, a significantly higher amount of time and energy should be oriented towards the fact that the US is the largest global oppressive terrorist force of all time and, like, we should seriously stop bombing and murdering people for economic and political control

    Reply
  47. E.R. Jones Posted on January 3, 2020 at 3:00 am

    glitter spaghetti ,that paints a picture

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  48. Destinee Anderson Posted on January 3, 2020 at 3:45 am

    confession I'm kind of interested in watching that Maury Episode

    Reply
  49. darkwingduckie7 Posted on January 3, 2020 at 4:32 am

    Thank you for explaining the gender stereotypes! It's the one question I always wondered about as more of a tomboy with quite a few male stereotypical hobbies that I got shit on and fought for my entire life from parents (especially my mom who threw away all my pants and replaced them with skirts when I was 14) to other girls/women. But your explanation just makes sense and shows a commonality between our experiences.

    PS. Long hair is not a gender signifier, just as a metalhead. 🙂

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  50. alyssa hansley Posted on January 3, 2020 at 6:30 am

    I hope the trans people who need therapy get therapy for their personal issues or maybe talk to another trans who's had more experience can guide and help u through the emotions and dysphoria (Idk how to spell it). I don't like seeing anyone feeling depressed or anything and always want them to get professional help when things get too hard for themselves. It's not a bad thing to seek help and I hope whomever reads this and having personal issues regarding trans or even other personal issues get the help they need ❤

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  51. Oliver Riggle Posted on January 3, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    Came to this video after a TERF told me I was LARPing as a man on Reddit. Thank you, Nat.

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  52. yollam Posted on January 4, 2020 at 12:07 am

    LOL he said trans people are most vulnerable

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  53. yollam Posted on January 4, 2020 at 12:23 am

    “Transwomen are forcing masculinity into women’s spaces” – said no gender critical feminist ever. Nice strawman. It’s about forcing MALES and PENISES into female spaces. The fact so many crossdressers are unconvincing is just what sets off women’s alarm bells. If you “pass” you may not freak anyone out but you’re still a male in a women’s room.

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  54. Eric Feldmann Posted on January 4, 2020 at 7:20 am

    sounds like people bringing others down to make themselves feel better

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  55. Eric Feldmann Posted on January 4, 2020 at 7:25 am

    the problem is that many of us hate our own selves so much we have to seek out something to hate more than our selves, so the fix is just love yourself and you will end the hate inside and out

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  56. BTQBCT Posted on January 4, 2020 at 7:47 am

    Oh my fucking god i didn't think the end of this video would make me cry

    Reply
  57. Scott Albers Posted on January 4, 2020 at 2:13 pm

    These are really brilliant. The best ones are the videos which arise from your personal experience.

    Reply
  58. Helen Posted on January 4, 2020 at 4:55 pm

    11:25 is SUCH a mood

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  59. Lucho-Core Posted on January 4, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    31:33

    That's so fucking admirable. I really don't know how can trans women can be that strong. I'm a cis male Getting depression and anxiety for stuff that seems comparatively so stupid.

    Reply
  60. Moth Posted on January 4, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    liked commented and subscribed because i'm a trans MAN that likes seeing what women do in their time by watching your vids yee ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Reply
  61. Laura Wargo Posted on January 4, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Woah. I think I have that same dress…

    Reply
  62. Technolocic Posted on January 4, 2020 at 11:58 pm

    Im not real ✅
    Im not valid ✅
    And I'm not sorry ✅

    Reply
  63. Technolocic Posted on January 5, 2020 at 12:07 am

    16:00 omg this i relate cause i never had any of these experiences

    Reply
  64. Jas Chil Posted on January 5, 2020 at 12:10 am

    Your 👏🏻 utopian 👏🏻 pipe dream 👏🏻 is 👏🏻 valid👏🏻

    Reply
  65. Tracie Williams Posted on January 5, 2020 at 2:38 am

    I was born in 1969 and I grew up in Silver Spring, MD – very close to the Silver Spring Metro station, actually. I was totally gender nonconforming, or what was then called a tomboy. Not something unusual in that time, in that place. Never did like traditional femme roles and clothes and expectations, etc. Still don't. But no one around me was disturbed by my tomboy ways. I wonder if tomboys like what I was are viewed as a little less threatening than boys who like wearing dresses and playing with Barbies (a toy I never had as a child) and that's why my experience with being GNC was totally smooth sailing. So what if I preferred to be outdoors, ride bicycles, play tennis, ride horseback, go swimming instead of fussing with hair and makeup? No big deal. Therefore, since I had no problems with the way I was, it's difficult for me to understand the "struggle" part of it for others. There was zero struggle for me. I'm still GNC and it's not a struggle at all. People easily accept me for what I am. Hmmmmm.

    Food for thought.

    I still wish I could just talk with Natalie for a while but…that'll never happen. I'm almost 20 years her senior and definitely not one of the "cool kids" so there it is. I'm wrestling with so many thoughts in my head.

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  66. Tracie Williams Posted on January 5, 2020 at 2:46 am

    Oh and re: Kim Kardashian…..just because you may not see the gender critical feminists criticizing her there, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does. I remember seeing a lot of that kind of talk when Beyonce had a GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIANT sign behind her on stage that said FEMINIST and everyone was like "but she caters to the male gaze so is she really a feminist?" Girl, it happens all the time. Madonna got it in her day too. Lots of women in the public eye who basically exploit their beauty and sexuality to make piles of money are constant targets of feminist criticism. Yup yup yup.

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  67. Joe Howard Posted on January 5, 2020 at 4:16 am

    Enter hateful feminist comments about you being a pornographic male abuser 🕰

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  68. Joe Howard Posted on January 5, 2020 at 4:29 am

    Even Minecraft……..? Lol

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  69. A Jar of Nutella Posted on January 5, 2020 at 7:43 am

    "take a fuckin sip, babes."
    proceeds to drink out of the teapot
    never change, natalie.

    Reply
  70. Moth Posted on January 5, 2020 at 9:37 am

    also bless you so much for talking about how menstruation and pregnancy are not strictly "woman's" issues, as a trans man it's really grating to either see us be erased constantly or misgendered in a medical context. i wish terfs would grow a brain cell and realize that it's not trans women "erasing" their womanhood, it's that not everyone with a uterus is a woman, full stop.

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  71. Kyles Keyes Posted on January 5, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    that point about people making arguments just to troll is interesting but also true
    I avoid trolling most of the time but as a dude I lived through a lot and witnessed a lot of sexism that men face at work, at school, sexual assaults and other double standards, suicides left and right, cancers…
    Everything I've just cited is either ignored or affects men disproportionately yet we don't see weeks long campaigns to get funds to help the men affected by those issues, and I think that it partially why many PEOPLE men and women alike tend to be VERY skeptical of feminism today, because feminism fights for women, but very VERY little for men, when they do it is just a bone they throw to the public to keep the myth going.

    I know it wasn't the point of the video but I thought I'd share.

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  72. Allie H77 Posted on January 6, 2020 at 5:15 am

    You’re so intelligent and amazing it’s pretty shocking how someone can be this perfect. Yes queen.

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  73. Sophia Yung Posted on January 6, 2020 at 6:33 am

    That grin at the end tho!!

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  74. Miriam M Posted on January 6, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    I love you : ) always so on point. It's relaxing for my anxious brain.

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  75. Girthy Gumbolini Posted on January 7, 2020 at 2:21 am

    As a gamer, i feel attacked and I cant believe you would say such a blatant anti-gamer statement. To think I could have been crafting as an ambigously gendered block conduit for these 34 minutes. Honestly quite peeved.

    (this is a joke, please dont shoot me.)

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  76. Estelle G26 Posted on January 7, 2020 at 3:22 am

    Damn it! I’m the 99,999th like! So close to 100k

    Reply
  77. Mando Teresia Posted on January 7, 2020 at 10:55 am

    I don't know who translates your video titles to Swedish, but they do it really weirdly.

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  78. Younes Posted on January 7, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    What does it mean to "clog a trans woman"? I've heard Natalie say it in multiple videos, but when i google it, nothing comes up.

    Reply
  79. jakers141 Posted on January 7, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    a terf character without terf bangs? expectation subverted

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  80. jakers141 Posted on January 7, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    I kind of don't enjoy how you implicitly equivocate transphobia and homophobia with instinctual fears of waste materials and infection? it's definitely a more culturally informed response than that

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  81. daniela dietel-wright Posted on January 7, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    gasp! oh my god, you look stunning in this dress! and i loooove the pillbox! ❤

    Reply
  82. Natalie LaBossier Posted on January 7, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    Great video! I recently learned about this "gender critical" movement of TERFs and have been struggling with my frustration about it.

    Don't forget that TERF language is also really harmful for intersex people! A lot of what "gender critical" people argue has to do with there being only 2 unchangeable sexes/genders. Obviously this isn't true for gender, and it isn't true for sex either. There are many individuals with what are medically called "Differences in Sexual Development" who don't fit into the "male" or "female" box. While intersex issues and trans issues aren't the same, there is some overlap in the way that TERFs erase and belittle both trans and intersex folks.

    Reply
  83. OriRune Posted on January 7, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    Wait I want to watch the game show at 7:08! What is that?

    Reply
  84. Pragon Posted on January 8, 2020 at 1:40 am

    15:05 fucking murdered me XD

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  85. August Denton Posted on January 8, 2020 at 7:56 am

    i never noticed the tiny winks before and am a little more in love with thisun than before

    Reply
  86. Ruxxey Posted on January 8, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Oof 07:00 now has a completely different context

    Reply
  87. Sofia Kim Posted on January 8, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Well… To me being a woman is having boobs. 🤷

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  88. Nomeo Nay Posted on January 8, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    Oh n-o! I am exposing my child to oppression because I do not force them to wear clothes coded male! I must get them butch clothes so they get male privilege!

    Reply
  89. Kirby Posted on January 9, 2020 at 3:24 am

    * shimmies boobs angrily *

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  90. BK Bland Posted on January 9, 2020 at 3:49 am

    Well, I think you're observant and wise, Natalie, so there. Frickin' TERFS, anyway.

    Reply
  91. Babs Hsock Posted on January 9, 2020 at 7:24 am

    well, if this youtuber thing doesn't work out, natalie can always become an interior designer

    seriously the set design is so rad, it's like the icing on the cake when watching her vids

    Reply
  92. Sara Mantilaro Posted on January 9, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    Take a fucking seat babe
    THE TEAPOT 'S NECK

    I'm so glad you exist natalie

    Reply
  93. jorge2060shake Posted on January 9, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Anybody knows the name of the song that starts at 6:30?? Thanks 🙏

    Reply
  94. tKnz Posted on January 9, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    i fucking love these sound effects

    Reply
  95. Anthony Carbone Posted on January 10, 2020 at 10:02 am

    I keep watching your videos 1 after the other because you have such an effective way of explaining things that both draw attention to and open the eyes of people who are happy with or unwilling to acknowledge things that are often easy not to think about. I really appreciate you and you putting out this kind of content. You are my favorite youtuber. -Your cis male gay fan

    Reply
  96. DCcalling Posted on January 10, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    I think the red dress and hat is my favorite Contra outfit. Also your set design is amazing.

    Reply
  97. Helen Rowlett-Barbu Posted on January 10, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    I heard from gender queer men they experienced a lot of misogyny while presenting female, so much so they actually stopped doing it.

    Reply
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