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Barack Obama : Call To Renewal – Faith and Politics 5of 5


but the reason the doctor was
considering not voting for me was not simply the fact that I was pro-choice
rather he had read an entry than my campaign had posted on my website which
suggested that I would fight quote this was language that was on my website at
the time quote right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman’s right to
choose unquote and so the doctor went on to write quote I sense that you have a
strong sense of justice I also sense that you are a fair-minded person with a
high regard for reason whatever your convictions if you truly believe that
those who oppose abortions are all ideologues driven by the perverse desire
to inflict suffering on women then you in my judgment are not fair minded you
know that we enter times that are fraught with possibilities for good and
for harm times when we are struggling to make sense of a common polity in the
context of plurality that we are unsure of what grounds we have for making any
claims that involve others I do not speak at this point I do not ask at this
point that you oppose abortion only that you speak about this issue in
fair-minded words fair-minded words God looked at my website I had you know this
my staff had put this up and I checked it and i found the offending words my
step the unfairness to them they had written that boilerplate because of a
standard democratic boilerplate it described my position during the
democratic primary at a time when some of my opponents were questioning my
commitment to protect roe versus wade so rereading the doctor’s letter though i
felt a pang of shame because it’s people like him who are
looking for a deeper fuller conversation about religion in this country they may
not change their positions I may not change my position but they’re willing
to listen and learn from those who are willing to speak in fair-minded words
those who know the central an awesome place that God holds in the lives of so
many and who refuse to treat faith is simply another political issue with
which to score points so I wrote back to the doctor and I thanked him for his
advice and the next day I circulated the email to my stay with the words
fair-minded words underlined and I changed the language on site to state
and clear but simple terms my approach oice position and then a prayer that I
might extend the same presumption of good faith to others that the doctor had
extended to me and so I say a prayer every night it’s a prayer that I think I
share with a lot of Americans a hope that we can live with one another in a
way that reconciles the beliefs of each with the good of all it’s a prayer worth
prank and a conversation worth having in this country in the months and years to
come and all of you have been active participants brothers and sisters in
that conversation thank you so much everybody you

Jean Kelley

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32 COMMENTS

  1. jmotz3 Posted on March 26, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    What he is talking about has nothing to do with politics.

    HE IS TALKING ABOUT NOTHING!!!!! AND PEOPLE THINK CHANGE WILL HAPPEN, BULLSHIT

    Ron Paul is the only candidate that actually talks about the REAL issues.

    This is sad.

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  2. dorsk188 Posted on April 21, 2008 at 9:24 am

    Did you not watch all 5 parts? Obama is talking about the role that religion and the religous have in politics. Perhaps the most important factor in domestic policy and key in recent elections.

    If the only "real issue" you care about is whether or not we should revive the gold standard, then you are free to scream Ron Paul as much as you want. But there are a litany of issues that we are going to have to resolve in the future, and we need common sense and a clear view of reality to do so.

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  3. dorsk188 Posted on April 21, 2008 at 9:32 am

    America, whether we like it or not, is a pillar of international stability. For the good of the nation and the good of the world, we cannot simply resign ourselves to the policies of the 1800's. That said, many of Paul's ideals are well noted.

    It's clear that McCain and Clinton see American strength as justification of exerting our power however we want. Paul seems determined to dismantle that power. Obama, while not perfect, is relatively moderate, in deliberation if not conculusion.

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  4. jmotz3 Posted on April 26, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    Obama will just go to war

    I guess you don't know what the CFR is.

    "we cannot simply resign ourselves to the policies of the 1800's"

    you obviously think Obama will change everything, but he has the same foreign and monetary policy as George Bush and you think thats change???

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  5. dorsk188 Posted on June 8, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Blah blah, one world government… yaddah yaddah 2012 doomsday scenario.

    You clearly read my posts with the care you take to listen to Obama's (or anyone's) policies. I didn't say Obama would change everything, as I said his conclusions may indeed be similar to those of Clinton or McCain (of even on occasion Bush).

    I know the concept is anathema to the typical "internet individualist" but there is a role for government beyond a military and police force.

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  6. tubilist Posted on June 27, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    There are many interesting points in this speech.

    One thing really bother me though

    It is his superior attitude when he speaks about faith, religion and religious people.

    The three examples he selected from the OT and NT are really a poor choice and shows a real shallowness in his understanding and knowledge of the Christian faith. It worked with this audience but it will backfire on him

    His statistics were not honestly reported. How can he bring people together and insult them ?

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  7. Suamarcos Posted on September 29, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    A prayer to "reconcile the belief of each with the good of all" Little does he know, that is impossible.

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  8. tubilist Posted on November 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    It is my personal policy not to respond to anyone who call me names, use profanity or insult me.

    Have a better day

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  9. pancake2662 Posted on May 16, 2009 at 3:04 am

    to me it all living life we now of. save all life. are we perfect union of killers. times is not a good answer for aburtion

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  10. The Creature from the Seventh Chamber Posted on September 25, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    hurray!! i love the sepoeration of church and state!!! if u dont well then fuck u!!!

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  11. Ryan S Posted on October 29, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Only a Christian can tell the true goal behind Obama's comments. He wants to silence Christianity. Where pluralism has been tried, people of true faith have been persecuted. He attacks the inherency of Scripture, which proves he's not a Christian. You can't be a Christian and deny the Bible as truth. This is what Obama and others are opposed to. They want an ineffective faith to exist in people that opens them to deception and manipulation by politicians like him. His prayer everynight

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  12. Ryan S Posted on October 29, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Then do it. I encourage you to search the Bible. Stay in it. For the Bible is a mirror. You will see that your life has become about hatred instead of love. But you might try opening your mind enough to search the Bible for Christ's words of incredible love and peace. I pray you'll find a place for God in your heart.

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  13. Ryan S Posted on October 29, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Yes, he spoke in a black liberal church with Jeremiah Wright as the pastor. By him agreeing with their 10 point pamplet shows his evil bias and intent on this nation. He's a deceived individual as are so many. They hate God in his truth. So they've devised a cunning way to silence it under the label of peace of tolerance and of diversity. But all the while, Democrats are passing hate crimes bills that silence a large portion of Americans. They tolerate not those who oppose their Nazi ideal

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  14. BlackRepublican2010 Posted on August 23, 2010 at 3:55 am

    Barack Obama, the supposed Christian, is trying to reach out to Evangelical Christians by taking hostile quotes from the Old Testament, the Hebrew Bible, & asking them about it. The truth is President Obama shows his ignorance here. He Should know that the Hebrew Bible is more hostile because unlike the book of Christianity about Salvation & what the Lord God says, the Hebrew Bible emphasizes the sins of man more emphatically & demonstrates the need for Jesus to come & save our sins.

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  15. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:19 am

    @steverinohayes You have to in this country, it's sad, and totally against the constitution and 1st amendment for the people to act this way. An non-christian will not get elected president if it is known.

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  16. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:19 am

    @therabbithole999 I very much hope this changes for the reasons Obama gave. Good speech, we'll see who actually listened.

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  17. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:25 am

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 Psycho, quit taking the bible literally every time. You endorse slavery, genocide, child murder, kidnapping, rape, incest, stoning… etc. Wake up! think about eternity in heaven… never ending eternity… have fun, i'll pass. Can't wait for the "Well have fun in hell then" rebuttal … Use your brain, take it metaphorically, believe in God if u must, (it could be true, i don't deny it) but the bible is mostly worthless.

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  18. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:36 am

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 BTW, your only the victim of deception and manipulation if you can't think for yourself in a rational and reasonable manner. Taking the bible as absolute truth is the opposite of this thinking.

    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it,
    no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason
    and your own common sense." – Buddha

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  19. Ryan S Posted on August 18, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    @therabbithole999 This kind of blatant hate speech is ridiculous. You must be a product of the NWO Public school (indoctrination centers) that teaches everyone to hate right and wrong and Christians and Jews. All I will say is that your hate will lead you to an unhappy life. Their is eternal truth and it's not in Budda or any other religion. And no, true Christianity is not a religion because it says that we've all sinned and fallin short of the Glory of God and therefore there's nothing.

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  20. Ryan S Posted on August 18, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Respond to this video… There is no eternal life without Jesus Christ's blood he spilt for you and me. You can seek Budda and any other religion you want, but you'll never have peace. Instead, you'll continue your obvious hatred towards people who've found peace in God. And your words are indeed hate speech. I hope you find a relationship with the God who made you (not a religion). But it won't be apart from His eternal Word. and lest we repent, we can't have that peace.

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  21. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 Funny you us ethe phrase "indoctrination cernters" ad then spew a 1-sided Christian argument… and deny all other religions! Wake up people.

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  22. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 That is your opinion, and 4 billion people (including myself) would disagree with you. I am perfectly happy denying what can't be proven nor am I at all happy with eternity as a reward. Eternity? have you even thought about that? Conscious for billions of years? no thanks… I'm an "I don't know" person call me an atheist if you want. You keep your one-sided opinion and spread your Christian righteousness and intolerance.

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  23. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 18, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 I see no response to taking the bible literally… what genocide isn't moral? stoning? Slavery? Let's here some justification for that, should be interesting…

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  24. Ryan S Posted on August 18, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    @therabbithole999 "A fool says in his heart there is not God" – Proverbs At this point you are a fool with your mind made up to pursue hell. So I've tried to speak the truth in Love, despite your name calling and false attacks. I'll simply let you continue falsely blaming me and other Christians for every evil in the world because Jesus said, "blessed are you when other say all manner of evil against you and falsely accuse you for my sake." So you have blessed me. I just hope you'll repent.

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  25. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:54 am

    @dirtyharrycallahan1 Hmm bible quotes don't work on non-believers. I never said there was no God anyway… I "don't know" since there is no proof but I am not completely shutting the door to the idea. If there is ever reasonable evidence to change my mind I will but right now the bible is not proof. I am not "pursuing hell" I don't have any reason to believe hell is real and definitely don't worry about it. I'm not hating just pointing out the irrationality in some of your beliefs.

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  26. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Respond to this video… I'm not trying to convert anyone, and I'm not Buddhist, just quoted Buddha. I am perfectly happy and at peace with my stance… In fact I am at more piece with myself since I abandoned religion and the constant threat of damnation. I live a moral life and don't fear God or hell. I am not hating your belief in God just the negativity when you say things such as "You can't be a Christian and deny the Bible as truth." and then deny half the moral teachings in it.

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  27. The Rabbit Hole Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:02 am

    Respond to this video… ""A fool says in his heart there is not God" – Proverbs" you realize this is hateful to non-Christians? You are calling anyone who is non-Christian, Fools (about 4 billion people). I never once blamed Christians for every evil (even though I definitely would have a basis for that argument). I blame them for being irrational, biased, and intolerant to other religions and people. I blame them for taking faith over reason and evidence which seriously hinders the truth

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  28. MrBoggles Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    he should be making this speech today. America. you need an overhaull. The rest of the modern world gets it why don't you? Religion + Politics = Bad News.
    It saddens me.. we had the same problem in the middle ages as we do today.. religion standing in the way of the advancement and evolution of the human condition. we would be 1000 years more advanced than we are today.. And regretably it's reering it's head again. Perhaps in a few hundred years it might be gone. Religion has served it's purpose

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  29. stellar C Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:34 am

    @javavon5069 I have no idea what you are talking about. Is English your second language? Are you saying that because he is not a Christian heis not a good person

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  30. stellar C Posted on February 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Of course he is not a Christian because unlike you he has read the bible and realises it is a collection of stoneage fairytales. I don't expect you to accept this as you have been indoctrinated since birth not to challenge the religious dogma portrayed as fact despite any verifiable evidence. That Obama has been able to do this despite similar intensive indocrination further proves the greatness of the man. To convince an inherently good person to do something really evil you need religion

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  31. stellar C Posted on February 26, 2012 at 2:55 am

    @javavon5069 I would say Obama is probably a Deist, which I can understand. What I can't understand is any free-thinking person believing, without any evidence, the bible to be the word of God. I believe as Tom Paine "the Bible is a gross libel against the justice and goodness of God, in almost every part of it." and if you believe otherwise I say to you that you haven't read it. It is these biblical contridictions Obama is trying to elucidate but, not surprisingly, I see it is lost on you.

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  32. Jazz-Time Posted on November 2, 2014 at 10:27 am

    It's not about the inerrancy of the Bible but the inerrancy of our understanding of the Bible.

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