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Atheist Rapper Greydon Square on Religion, Serving in Iraq, Black Americans & Religion

graydon squares in eighties rapper and
founder of the creative science collective grand unified his music deals
with philosophical issues including a season in science political issues the
war in iraq and his experiences as a soldier so i want to get to know if this is
great but first let’s start with wid you grow up and well would have bought with
the situation which include of more or safety for uninsured appropriate basically our growth as a war of the
court the in the system or california or as they are from of the los angeles area of prior to the
resilient that and you know opening all my life at had a lot to do
with the program programming with then bring in progr coming with
institutional uh… uh… ants for leon although i had an affinity for music and
at a faster for music in our los amo maker i wasn’t you know run around trying to attach
myself to something that uh… to be quite honest didn’t really care about army at all and i didn’t understand that so when you’re young and you want
something to belong to uh… you know you attach itself to
going to try to sell hearing yourself to two groups that uh… that don’t have your best interest of
mine well a bit older than you know i was a al-mal exhorted early adulthood i’m a
two-stage in to go to the military about papa once before nine a letter and so i’ll second like a lot of people
have a stalker some palestinian home changed my life around all of our and mala happens in early in that period so my life changed forever in the sense that anew uh… that i was gonna be directly
affected by these events as they uh… twenty one-year-old young army soldier i was deported tire acknowledge that’s to uh… for a senator boren pitcher
division alsace g_-seven uh… europa while i can’t you’ve been through
the to but in the pacific my deployment let’s just say that it was a ally
life-changing experience i went to the military you know to have
alleging changing spirits but income in the form the part where they came in from wound other reform so uh… my childhood might have had a lot to do
with programming and one of those programming uh… one of the program were with
religion and by the programming throughout my childhood and her going
into my adulthood edinburgh questioning it into a pool you know i’d already come home and and uh… up basically down by the military started
going to school yes or no consider yourself what the
religious person up until viewers still feeling the military proper you know i mean i i a question are always grant repair within the typical model who who bopping required finger on paper ok you know i mean like i i i i
would black person that a lot person anyway however very analytical uh… critical maraynes growing up what i’ve been applied to all affect of
my life because i don’t have the period there religion and i think that probing talk
to me uh… ever para at religious peeping i do that very heavily and you know when you’re young republican
murder you don’t have the experience to know that an adult telling you something
that you think the print media uh… this ship that that that that hopefully you’ve had uh… for good foundation of being a work-based but you
could come back that type of uh… pickup type of believe banking swinging is being an atheist a bigger
deal any the african-american community are not being fair objective of the
current our community had been the more
religious uh… are a lot of our are social who it have been religion throughout our history a lot of time and
that’s not the paper itni only implement surveyor eventhough secular african and
their important but not a lot we know that it it then um… a primary christian uh… you know muslim-dominated coats so i i think it kind of a big deal
because you know g disappeared and an christianity a free
paper in the black community any time he questioned uh… me your community on something uh… and and closely held at the religious belief
your victim mode when we think about some of the issues
that disproportionately affect black
americans although really the socio-economic issues but particularly
in this country their particular interest fit for the african-american
community incarceration uh… child poverty a number of
different things do you think that the black community
might be better off in advancing politically and socially economically if
religion were less of a factor all right yes benefit of a long long answer but i
want a truck business quickly like and i think the reason why it passed through is
because maybe if were focused on real issues community like that patient army it kandahar to teach they any kid who’s been trained to critically being
about brings that big guy is responsible or a slave
trade abroad and u it’s hard too for ignore the real issues we’re not worried about fictional ish she’s okay because at the end the day i mean you know people no matter position i’d argue that is completely
guessing you’re wasting your time all that time it energy hinkle towards uh… uh… you were community and and and beijing
at the the agent and of with education arm you know uh… the ability to sustain yourself the ability to support for something
really be support your family the ability to make smart and informed
decisions and i’ll by that you know we’re acting for woodward park
how to make informed decisions i mean even really learn how to make decision making it but i wanted the
barbie so you know i a lot of us are are we we have our own almost have bestial crimes overcome before we even
get to the point where we address in the religion because of the way that our community used for booking them we’ve been speaking with graydon square
a fee is rapper and founder of the creative sides collective grand unified
graydon working people look you up online aren’t well armand twitter honestly is the great and
your your idea winds whereas initially no spaces you can also find us on both a
slew uh… we will enter our brain unified uh… you can just google me and i
guarantee you that brady’s for a that’s me so all right thanks so much for being on
the thread thank you for having me all right we’ll take a break we’ll be
back with plenty more after this date in houston’s

Jean Kelley



  1. lespatriotsfan Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    The dude in the black shirt dancing looks like he was taught some dance moves by Napoleon Dynamite but I'm liking Greydon. Lol This was cool

  2. HOLIDAY112 Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    This guy's incredibly atheist, go listen to more of his songs. Start with "A Rational Response".
    "But carbon dating is flawed"
    "Its half life is 5730 years, and that supports our cause"
    Now that'd be great if we used it to date
    But since we don't then I'm a question that argument's weight
    We use potassium argon to date to date the globe
    Not carbon 12 or carbon 14 not none of those
    So before you attack Grey go get ya facts straight
    Because in the facts race, your God comes into last place

  3. Kaalec Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    What's withe subtitles? They don't match what he's saying.

  4. asphyxiafeeling Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    David Pakman promoting hip hop? You just got a TON more respect from me.

  5. swisshakilla™ Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    he'll never make it in the hip hop industry. most minorities are God fearing. Just like most Democrats. Chill with all the atheist propaganda.

  6. swisshakilla™ Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    …to propagate atheism. atheism is a religion now. they're out to convert as many believers as possible.

  7. Alex Ehrenfeld Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    First time hearing of this Greydon guy and im liking him alot- really cool interview

  8. tehlolercaust Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:30 am

    Unicorns aren't deities…… /facepalm.

  9. hayden120ful Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Atheism is NOT a religion, It's a lack of religion. That's like saying theism is a religion

  10. Bianca Madison Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 am

    OMG, its 2012 and retards are STILL debating the meaning of atheism??

  11. tehlolercaust Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:56 am

    re-read your post and look at the context.

  12. Vanessa Pardue Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 am

    Everything Greydon Square said about the black community about church, critical thinking and making informed decisions is true. It took me joining the military and going to college to get away from all those things that holds people prisoner.

  13. HOLIDAY112 Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 am

    I don't know what part of the song you're referring to but he's very very atheist lol. Atheism is a very general term, you can't try and speak for all atheists by saying that it's "impossible" for there to be a god. It's just the belief that there is no god/s.

  14. bary1234 Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Can you feel how astonishingly stupid you are?

  15. tehlolercaust Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:31 am

    I think you just need to go look up the definition of context.

  16. tehlolercaust Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:00 am

    wow… blocked… I can't stand cunts who are willfully ignorant of the language they speak.

  17. HOLIDAY112 Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:25 am

    Thanks so much for explaining to me!! =D

  18. Alex Ross Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:41 am

    You've actually got that a bit wrong. Being atheist means the individual lacks belief in any gods… it doesn't say anything about what they do or don't know.

    Gnosticism however does say what they know… and I'd gladly admit that as an atheist I don't KNOW there's no god. I just have no reason to think that there are any. ie I'm atheist AND agnostic. They're not mutually exclusive.

  19. Alex Ross Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:02 am

    I defined agnosticism AND atheism. You clearly have an outdated dictionary.

  20. shandcunt Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:13 am

    you mean…..like being part of a political party? the problem is that when you expand the definition of religion to include atheists you also include political partys, often sports teams, philosiphy, music

  21. Alex Ross Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:14 am

    Ok you're trolling. Oops.

  22. Alex Ross Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:15 am

    In fact, the definition you just pasted contradicts your claims and supports mine. That's quite funny really.

  23. AKSBSU Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:04 am

    What's the deal with half of the comments coming from one rather angry and confused person? You left your caps lock on, brah.

  24. shandcunt Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:35 am

    I disagree, this seems like quite a personal issue to you, can I ask, Are you an Agnostic or Atheist?

  25. DubStar Music Group TV Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 am


  26. pealow Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53 am

    The Bible is bullshit, that means jesus is bullshit,if the Bible is true, why would god create evil?

  27. samus1225 Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Unfortunately, this guy doesn't have a rapper's voice

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  29. jessivehadit Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Yeah Greydon! Big fan.

  30. GodCreatesGays2 Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Triun, keep in mind that Jesus would be the first one to denounce you for allowing Satan to cripple you with bigotry and hypocrisy.

  31. Ryan Walsh Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:44 am

    Wrong. Agnostic and atheist address different questions. Do you know that there is/isn't a god? If it's yes or no, you are gnostic. If it is "I don't know", regardless of being atheist or Christian, you are agnostic. Do you believe that there is/isn't a god? If yes or no, you are a theist or atheist, respectively. So the chap you replied to would be an agnostic atheist. In your example, an atheist would be a gnostic atheist. All clear now?

  32. Luther Y Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:52 am

    Can I see the link?

  33. Holly Spry Posted on December 5, 2012 at 6:47 am

    Very cool to see an interview with Greydon on TDPS.
    Good job, guys.

  34. KUTTY'S ENTERTAINMENT Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    I agree with his assessment of the lack of teachings in the african american church that addressess those issues in the AF in which our energy should be focused on self sustainment, education and advancement of the race.

  35. NicholasKreuz Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    This bit right here is very well worded, thank you.

  36. Rusty Cuyler Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    People laugh at you crazy god-bots behind your back, they're laughing at you for believing in unicorns or sky gods or whatever voodoo you think is real. Your Jebus character is parodied everywhere because your god-stories are so fucking wacky. Good luck with the sky god religion you big douchbag, chant around the fire and sacrifice a chicken in my name. "''JESUS IS ''GOD''!!!!" LOL

  37. jb4real14 Posted on December 6, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Well i'm not saying he's a well-renowned intellectual, but he actually says something in his music, and will at LEAST have the balls to even go up against Christopher Hitchens in a debate. Something a lot of theologian professors weren't even brave enough to do.

  38. Voodoo Ray Posted on December 6, 2012 at 2:49 am

    Who cares if he doesn't have a "rapper's voice". Have you listen to the message?

  39. DubStar Music Group TV Posted on December 6, 2012 at 2:57 am


  40. NicholasKreuz Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    I'd be interested in that too. Agnosticism and Atheism have been around for quite a while, and it was only fairly recently that it was stigmatized, so it's probably pretty accurate there too.

  41. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    Agnosticism means don't know. Ag = don't gnostic = know. As long as there has person who didn't know if a god or gods existed there have been agnostics. 1889 might be when the modern definition came about but agnostics have always been there.

  42. Rusty Cuyler Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    You are in a cult and they have poisoned your mind with nonsense. I truly hope you make it out someday, science, logic and reality are so much better than the delusional mythologies of all the religions that only serve to make you feel good. Good luck with your mental health recovery, people get out of the cult all the time, you can do it too.

  43. Rusty Cuyler Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    … and sorry I was so harsh to you in my first reply to you.

  44. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:58 am

    Nope. A = don't theist = believe. So atheists don't believe a god exists. A theist is a believer and an atheist isn't.

    Don't make up definitions it make you look extremely ignorant.

  45. megastratix Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:40 am

    'no god' and not believing can be considered different things. Your pronunciation and definition make it confusing, TANK describes it better.

  46. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    the definition you are choosing ie; making up, is wrong and ignorant.

    Atheist means literally "without belief". Not in anyway "100% no god". In fact most atheist agree that anything is possible including a god even though most think it's the most unlikely thing in the universe.

    Theist means BELIEVER not god. Atheist means not a believer. you can't just make up new definitions to make you point it's ignorant and highly dishonest.

  47. PUMKINMANforever Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    The caps lock really helps your arguments

  48. megastratix Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    I want you to define god(s) for me, that way i can know where your coming from. that way i can tell you if i believe your claim 'theism' or not believe your claim 'atheism' on this particular definition of god.

  49. megastratix Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    caps lock does matter. it denotes that your shouting rather than engaging in proper netiquette that many here follow. please remove caps lock from the keyboard.

  50. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 9, 2012 at 6:51 am

    Wow all those cap you must be right no one who use all caps is ever wrong. Or you could actually check a dictionary before making a fool of yourself.

    atheist (ˈeɪθɪˌɪst) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]

    — n
    1. a person who does not believe in God or gods

    — adj
    2. of or relating to atheists or atheism

    So yeah, you don't get to make up your own definitions. If Huxley "made it up" why does the Bible comment on atheism. You know that 2000 year old book you haven't read either.

  51. megastratix Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Please avoid absurd generalizations. if you are referring to the christian/abrahamic god the i would say that such a god doesn't exist but there are also many other gods people proclaim to know to exist. Each requires a standard of evidence to determine whether it is justifiable to believe in this specific deity. having a definition provides a point where experiments can be conducted and claims are either supported or dis-proven.

  52. George Scott Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Fuck yeah. Atheism FTW!!! Support from Cali.

  53. TheAmmoniacal Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Why is it so difficult for people to understand the definition of the word "atheist", it simply means "not theist", where theism is defined as "belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures". Agnosticism, similarly, is defined as "not gnostic", where gnosticism is defined as "possessing intellectual or esoteric knowledge of spiritual things". It's not that difficult .

  54. Melissa Kelly OKeefe Posted on December 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    A child is supposed to be taught in a classroom- children are not supposed to be used for sex. No one is supposed to teach a child sex in the bedroom. That is RAPE not religion- good for you!
    Melissa Kelly OKeefe

  55. REALCHUCKNORRIS305 Posted on December 10, 2012 at 8:50 am

    the way you used those scriptures are out of context my friend… john 3;1-3 has nothing to do with the mark of the beast.

  56. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm

    It's called Agnostic Atheism. Most Atheists will agree that while anything is possible a god of any kind is extremely unlikely. I don't believe aliens have visited Earth but its possible. I think Bigfoot is a stupid myth but there is the remotest of chances that species may exist. I don't think a teapot circles the sun sun between the orbits of mars and Jupiter at 99.9999999999999999999999999% certainty but I can't say one doesn't for sure (Russel's teapot).

    I don't believe in god in this way.

  57. markymarkbb Posted on December 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.

  58. markymarkbb Posted on December 10, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    I don't know. Doesn't mean god did it.

  59. markymarkbb Posted on December 10, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    Just read the dictionary and it says it's either the belief there is no god (strong atheism) and the disbelief in a supreme being or beings (weak atheism). You can be agnostic on the fact that there when it comes to a god.

  60. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    You are in a rare and smaller group known as Gnostic Atheist. It's the inverse of Gnostic Theists who Know for 100% that God does exist. I personally don't like absolutes. The world is never just black or white. Or if you know the Dawkins's scale You would rate a 7 out of 7.

    I personally recognize that I am not always right and as a human mistakes are part of who we are as learning beings, as such I won't claim to be infallible.

  61. TANKgodsAREangry Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Not my definition. Theism and Atheism are about belief. They depend on weather you BELIEVE god is real or not. Gnosticism and Agnosticism are based on knowledge. Weather you KNOW god is real or not. Neither is mutually exclusive.

    Personally I don't know if there is a god but I don't believe in any god, aka Agnostic Atheism. You claim to know that no god exists and also not to believe a god exists, aka Gnostic Atheism.

    You should really try opening a dictionary.

  62. markymarkbb Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Again I don't know I know as much as you do about the origin of the universe, and by that fact it doesn't mean god did it.

  63. oceanceaser Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:03 am

    Being an Atheist means you don't believe in god, not any of that.

  64. oceanceaser Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:06 am

    You are as stupid as the creationists if you believe that.

  65. megabrettster1 Posted on December 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    I don't follow religions but I believe in God and pray to him. Reason being i'm fed up with religion. I think its pointless stupid people are using it to control other lives and our government. So i said fuck this shit God its just you and me and no one else. There is one question everyone should ask before choosing religion or athesism. How the fuck did hummanity get started how did the universe start. The big bang theory is just a theory doesn't mean its true

  66. Don't Touch My Hair Posted on December 15, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    SO just because we don't definitively know how the universe started means we just say God did it? I agree with you that it's pointless for people to use religion to control lives.

  67. megabrettster1 Posted on December 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Well what do you think created earth man and the universe. It's an awkward question and right now no one can answer that. No one probably will for hundreds of years maybe thousands. Until somone has a ligitamate answer to that question then I'm going to believe that a highier being did it. It may seem looney but I feel sometimes that it helps to have a connection wasn't something unworldly or something for ourselves. Keeps me in check lol

  68. THOR-axe Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:34 am

    ok the big bang is the best theory we have. it is very hard to become a theory in science so i really don't know what you mean by it is just a theory( gravity is a theory and u might believe in that.). and Gravity is also proven to be the reason the earth and other planets form so i hope that answers those questions. remember it always easy assume the answer, but harder to be brave enough to look for it.

  69. megabrettster1 Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Technically a theory is an unproven hypothesis. The big bang hasn't been proven yet. Gravity has been proven already. That is why it is a scientific fact. I hope one day we can find the answer.

  70. THOR-axe Posted on December 20, 2012 at 1:12 am

    technically no it is not. a Theory is formed when the facts are put together. wiki the word fact , then theory if it still makes no sense

  71. Brett Mallon Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    You clearly dont know what a theory is in science. seriously..wiki the word

  72. raiderskull75 Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:31 am

    Georges Lemaître

  73. Kyle Elrod Posted on December 29, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Wiki is not a search.sigjt.i.cam.chamge.fact.to lie if i want and wiki would post it as deff if fact lol

  74. Gooners Rule Posted on January 13, 2013 at 10:15 am

    I am going to ask. Do you know what a Scientific Theory is yet because its a scientific fact that you didnt?

  75. SexyPirahna Posted on January 14, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    By asking, "who created matter", you are begging the question. That is a fallacy and thereby invalidates any argument you make afterward. I could also use your same question against you. If your god created everything then where did he come from. If you just say he was already there that is special pleading and also a fallacy.

  76. SexyPirahna Posted on January 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    If these idiots understood the scientific method they wouldn't talk so much shit about it.

  77. Greydon Square Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Want to have this debate with me live? Tune into my livestream show every Thursday night on livestream from 745pm to 945 PST. @GreydonSquare on twitter. Get at me, we'll debate all you want. Thumbs up if you like this.

  78. Mark Dohle Posted on May 26, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Well not quite true, those somtimes it is. There are lots of village atheist out there.

  79. Jamie B Posted on October 29, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Greydon's the man! Keep spreading the atheist truth big dog

  80. Mark Callaghan Posted on December 13, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Genuine respect to Graydon

  81. Rellsway Thornton Posted on February 16, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Finally, we need more black people like this in our community

  82. Simen Iversen Posted on March 15, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    I like this guy! 🙂 

  83. Kizzle GU Posted on September 7, 2014 at 4:11 am

    the subtitles are ridiculously wrong

  84. TheCausation Posted on May 31, 2015 at 1:55 am

    atheism is as dangerous as any religion

  85. Zanitari Posted on October 26, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    Please check out my latest message for all humanity in a depressed state.
    Por favor revise mi último mensaje para toda la humanidad en un estado de depresión .


  86. james frazier Posted on December 31, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    YEAHHHH!! Two of my favorite things now.. DP and my fav rapper now

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  88. NO NAME 00110001001110010011100000110100 Posted on April 23, 2016 at 11:08 am

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  89. Daniel Posted on August 12, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    which one of his songs was that first one they played`?

  90. Don Rider Posted on October 13, 2016 at 5:14 am

    Why do you have the rapper bowing his head in the thumbnail for the vid? Was it deliberate?

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  92. Gabe Wehner Posted on March 4, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    Holy shit, never knew Greydon was on this show. Crazy!

  93. Nurseangie73 Love Posted on September 27, 2018 at 9:14 am

    Wow! I stumbled across your channel as I did a search for Greydon because of my recent realization of being an atheist. As a black woman thank you this interview and bringing up points about black folk being better off without religion and wanting to be attached to something or a group. You’ve just earned a new subscriber. Thank you!

  94. Martell Tha Cool Posted on April 22, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    This is a breath of fresh air to see black atheists. I'm happy for this brother being bold with his music. I buy a song from him to support fellow black atheists 💪😎 💪

    I'm happy to be an black atheist


  95. barbara hallas Posted on June 30, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    Never knew David pakman was so cool to have greydon square on much respect any atheists out there that hasn't heard him needs to

  96. Alfalfa Jones Posted on October 24, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    My Man!
    Understand if u Can that I'm a Fan of Mr.Greydon Square.

    Peeped the Bullshit on "Religion" Long before he gets Grey HAiR..!!!😉😎!